Jaipur Meeting, March 25, 1986

 

IMPERISHABLE, DEATHLESS BODY

Jaipur Meeting, March 25, 1986

         Gurudev Shri Lahari Krishna

If a man loses his soul there is no use of his living in this world.  He may gain the whole world and be the chief man of the world but if he loses his soul he is nothing.  The eternal soul is put in a body of clay of five senses; so the body wants to live like a worldly person, but the soul wants to live eternally.  This is a battle for everyone.  The five senses pulls him down to the earth, but the soul pulls him to heaven.  And if you win the five senses you are qualified for heaven and eternal life.  But many people because they die they cannot believe that man can live without death.  They think that man has to die and then his soul has to go into re-birth.  Now we can put a seed into the ground.  First of all the leaves come, then the flowers come, then the small seed just like the original comes.  The one seed becomes hundreds of seeds exactly like the one you put in the ground, like the one that went in the ground.  So that one seed brought hundreds of seeds.

          So if a man could trust God he also becomes one of the seeds.  If God cannot die, you cannot die.  But the thing is we have got five senses.  Everybody will say if you do Yogic exercises you can control the five senses.  They want to go to the jungles; they go to a place where is no sound, trouble and they want to meditate with the idea that they can overcome the five senses.  Even Buddha said the whole reason is lust.  You know he said he was under a tree and got this revelation.  Any ordinary man can say all the troubles is because of this lust, but who can give the remedy to overcome that.  A doctor can tell this (disease) is because of typhoid germ.  But we must find out a remedy.  Many years ago there was no medicine for typhoid, so if a man gets typhoid he has to suffer for three months.  Many people died.  I also had an attack of typhoid and my mother lost hope.  I had a relapse, I thought I could never live; one of my friends collapsed and he died.  But somehow or other I escaped with great difficulty.  But today, they have found out a medicine, chloromycin, if you inject that or take the pills, the disease will be entirely healed.  Suppose someone came about 20 years ago and said that you had typhoid the doctor will say you have to be between life and death,  many people don't live in this world, he will say.  But at that time chloromycin was not found out, there was no medicine called chloromycin, but today no one is afraid of typhoid.  How did the fear go away?  Because we found out there is a medicine.  I was afraid of typhoid once but today even if a child gets typhoid we are not afraid.  That child cannot die of typhoid because of the remedy.

          How did death come to us?  That word Narayana means he didn't come by sex, he came by water.  Nara means water, and because he came from water he is called Narayana.  And he is Holy without death.  But see we are all born as a dying person, so how can we attain deathlessness?  When the five senses attack us, we have no faith on God.  We believe a post man, we believe the doctor, but we don't believe God that way.  Suppose a postman comes and tells, we got a money order for 100 rupees.  First you believe it, secondly you sign.  You do not sign, I am going to receive it, I will receive it, I may receive it, you sign "received".  But you have not got the money in the hand.  You can't tell the postman first I get the money and then I will believe you.  You don't sign the money order, I have not seen the money, I don't believe the postman, I am signing it thinking that I may receive it.  He won't give you the money.  When he shows the money order you sign "received".  Then the money comes.  If you believe God like that everybody will be healed of all their diseases.  We don't trust God even as a postman.  We talk philosophy.  "Oh God is like that, God is like that"; what do you know about God my friends.  People don't believe God today.  They talk hundreds of things about God but you must taste God and see.  Just like a postman if you believe what God says, you will get it.  That is why you must become a child of God or a son of God.

          Because you prayers are answered don't think that you are a son of God.  I go on the road, one beggar comes, "Please, please, Please, please, Please";  I give 50 c.  He can't say, "Oh, Mr. Lawrie is my father".  Because I gave him money I don't become his father.  But when a son comes, born in my family, he will say "Daddy".  I will give him 10 rupees, 50 rupees or more.  But today people say, I want healing.  Healing can be got in many ways, even by magic they get healing; by injection they get healing.  You know I was in Orissa one day.  Because I was in Vellore hospital I know what the doctors will give as medicine ; what medicine the doctors will give, what kind of medicine.  So a rich man came, "Brother Lawrie I am going to Vellore hospital to check my son, he is having some brain trouble.  "So I told, I checked him and said I will give a medicine and wrote and gave.  Phenobarbital .. Sodium Phenylethyl.  But he said "Oh, I will go to Vellore.”  I said, "This is what they will give you."  "No, I am going to the great hospital Vellore."  I said, "I worked under the very doctor.  “How can we believe you?"  So he went to the hospital, paid 10,000 rupees for the medical examination, at the end ten thousand rupees.  For the examination 10,000 rupees.  He came after one month, he met me, "When you gave the same medicine I thought of no value, but now I had to pay 10,000 rupees to get the same medicine.  In all the examination I got only that prescription Mr. Lawrie."  He had to believe the doctor, pay 10,000 rupees and come to my belief.

          Faith is different thing, everybody will believe.  "I believe."  Believing is not faith.  Faith has got legs, belief has no legs.  Faith can rest on something, belief cannot rest on anything.  Now my son comes; one day he wanted some money.  I told my son, "Don't disturb me until 9 'o' clock.  I want 200 rupees.  I said, “Come at 9 'o' clock and I will give you," and I forgot it.  And on that day this fellow told all his friends, "Wait, at 9 'o' clock I will get the money".  I forgot it and when I am praying nobody should disturb me.  It was 9 'o' clock, he was banging on the door.  I said, "Don't you have sense man, why do you want to disturb me".  A voice comes, "It is 9 'o' clock now".  "What is 9 'o' clock?  "You told me you would give me my rupees at 9 'o' clock.  Then I remembered my promise, opened the door and gave the money.  Because I promised he got faith.  If I didn't promise him he will have only belief.  And when he asked me I had to give him (the 200 rupees).

          In the same way we must find out from the Vedas and the Scriptures what God has promised His people.  What does Krishna say?  If you lose all the attachments, and also the objects of attachments, then you can come into me.  If you do that it is a promise for you.  But you don't leave the attachments but still you want to get the blessings.

          You don't need to go the jungles; in your very home you can bring heaven to you.  One day I thought being a bachelor I can get more of God.  I was a sadhu in a saffron robe and growing a beard and was going in the jungles there thinking that I was going to heaven that way.  I never knew that God could be found out in the very house.  You don't find God in the jungles you don't find him in the churches... Now you can't see the sunlight in here, so we are putting artificial light.  You don't feel the breeze here, so we put artificial fan.  If you want the real thing you have to get out and enjoy the breeze.  If you want real light you can go out and get the sunlight or moon light.  In the same way, God is not a respecter of persons.  He is not only for rich people, but also for poor people.  He is not for Americans and rich people but for Indians also.  So if you go out you can meet God outside (denominations).  I have been trying to find out God in all the temples.  I was entering into the Muslim temple.  You know the great Akbar, the great Moghul.  The muslims have a five pointed star, but when I went to the Bombay Museum I saw the Akbar shield.  In that shield he has put the 12 Zodiac signs.  In that place he put the six pointed star where the Pisces is.  So when that star was there, the Muslim, the great King, believed in the star and believed in the number 6 ( 2+4 = 6 -- 24 is the birth day of Kalki Avatar ) and also believed in the sign of Pisces.  What is the meaning of that?  That is the sign of the last Avatar that has to come down.  His birth number is number 6, and he is to be born in Pisces.  Thinking that only he was winning the battles.

          So many people all over the ages, they knew what is going to happen.  The Muslims do not have the six pointed star but Akbar had it.  And in this Zodiac sign... you know the people have lost the key.  They start the Astrology from Goat.  But they must start from Virgo that means Virgin.  Because, if you go to a place you find a statue called sphinx.  The head is a lady but the body is a lion.  That is the key of astrology.  Why they lost the key is because they started from the goat.  That is why they cannot get the message of God which was put in the stars.  You see a man holding a balance that is judgement.  You see a man drinking water, that is Spirit of God.  Every sign is an important thing.  So you can see from all over the place, early days there have been wise people following these things.

          You know when the British came, many of the blessings were lost in India.  About 40 years ago we had the whole Saturday as holiday.  When the British came they changed the Saturday (to Sunday) as holiday.  When the British came they changed the Saturday to Sunday, they made Saturday was called Sani day.  That means it is a very bad day, it is called Sani Baghwan, so they stayed inside the house.  They poured oil on the body; only at 6 O' clock they will go out.  And that is one of the reasons we lost power.  Because on Saturday we roamed about and got all the influence of Sani.  But thank God, Rajiv Gandhi made Saturday also a holiday.  That is a sign we have hope today.  You better see that.  If you stay at home on Saturday most of your problems will go away.  Because that is a great secret.  God's people lost power because of certain things.

          You may be a Hindu, but you must understand your soul is important.  These five senses will tell you, you are going to die, you are going to die.  Suppose you have a pain in the stomach, God will say get yourself prayed or touched.  But the five senses will say pain here, pain there, pain there.  What side will you take?  When you turn towards God you shoult not believe the five senses.  So you must believe in God, your pain will go away.  But if you turn to the five senses you call God a liar.  That is why many people unknowingly call God a liar believing the five senses.

          Krishna said you must control the five senses then only you can overcome re-birth.  You must get into him.  That is why He said I am the door you can come in.  All people in this world are not doors.  Only Narayana gives us the door.  And He is the medicine for everything, if you want to take the Karma away, only He can do that.

          I have God in my heart; In 1943 I realized God in my life, and I want to serve God.  But in 1969 moon-landing day the Spirit of the Lord came into me, Lord Narayana came into me and from that day I know the future of India is in our hands.  That is why we are bold today; we are boldly proclaiming this truth.  Today people will say if I will be like a Sanyasi, grow a beard and wear a saffron robe....they will say you are a sadhu.  But God told me I must be in a normal way to the people, so I am coming like a normal man.  It is up to you to get the revelation of God.  When you get the revelation of God and when your spiritual eye is opened, then you will know who I am.  That God.....that great God who created the whole world is living in me.  You may say don't you think God is living in all of us.  You can tell that, but today he has come to save the people who truly love Him.  Let others say, let them prove that, but I am telling you, let them prove (if I am wrong) because you can tell anything in the mouth but God must vindicate it.

          You know one day I was in Los Angeles, America.  A muslim came.  I was just preaching giving a lecture on the road.  This muslim was from Iran, he got very angry.  Many Americans were there.  He said, "You Indian, I put my hand like this, if your God is true, pray for a $100 let it fall into my hand."  It was an open challenge on the road, all the Americans were laughing.  But one man came and stood there; the previous night God told him, a muslim will challenge a man, you just drop $100 in his hand.  So he has been waiting since the morning sitting on a stone.  When this muslim challenged me I told the muslim you say you have got Allah, I have got God.  If God drops $ 100 in my hand this will prove God is not with you.  God is with me.  "Yes".  Suddenly one man jumps in the crowd looking to the people, "That man Lawrie is guided by God, God told me to drop these dollars in his hand".  "Then he told me, "I am from Iran, I was criticizing everybody who comes here, so today I got caught badly."  It was a great day.  Then many people took me into their homes.  I didn't go to America to get money, I refused to join any religion there.  But I brought God to many people there.  Today people are all over the countries.

          And I want to spend more time in India; I won't be happy with just the other people coming to God, I want the Indians to come to God.  I have not much to give you, money or anything but I can give you what God has given into my hands which no other man or anybody can give that to you.  I am not going to convert you, I don't believe in conversion.  I have not come to change your name.  I want to bring that peace to you.  How can you have peace if you don't have peace in your heart?  How can you bring peace to your country without your having peace?  One hundred and forty four thousand will have peace very soon and they will overcome death.  In this generation there are one hundred and forty four thousand people of the Indians who will go in glory without death very soon.  May be you are one of them.  That is why today we spend a lot of money here to come to you.  The people who got the blessings here, they have spent the money and called me here.  We will be leaving on the 30th.  But I can give you peace and go, so that the whole India will be shaken by that peace.  This world cannot give you peace my friends.  Drinking will not give you peace; women cannot give you peace; wealth cannot give you peace; enjoyment will not give you peace.  I am a man who tried all these things to get the peace.  I was even ready to commit suicide.  But one day in Ceylon as I was meditating in the jungle the peace came to me.   and I have been preaching all over.  But on 1969 the very Narayana came and I have come with a mission here.  I am not a missionary of the Americans, I am a missionary of God, sent by God to the people of India.

          Suppose there is a friend.  I want to come to his house, he scolds me.  Many times I try to come to his house.  He says get out, get out, get out.  I want to talk to him, he doesn't want to talk to me, he doesn't turn to me.  Suppose any friendship should happen who talk first?  I want to talk to him but that man doesn't talk to me.  I want to talk to him everyday, he doesn't want to talk to me.  How can we have friendship?  I am always willing to talk to him.  But one day that man wants my friendship, then he calls me, "Hello Lawrie".  then I am waiting to catch him because I want to talk to him.  God has been talking to you very often.  Many times you had accidents, you escaped by hair breath.  Many times you are about to die, God wants to tell you.  "Come on child come to me".  You say you are a busy man you don't have time for God.  Many times He talks to you.  When you are on your sick bed, when you have financial problems, he is talking to you, but you never turned your face.  And He is calling you.  But that friendship will never come between God and you.  He has been talking for centuries.... He has been talking to you for years, but you have no time to give to God.  And today He is calling you, My dear friends, can't you hear the voice of God calling you.  But that friendship will not come unless you call Him.  Otherwise the friendship will never come between God and you.  He calls you, it is your turn to call Him.  Then immediately He will catch you.  "Yes boy I have been waiting for you to call me".  Call like that.  Because you have been refusing Him he can't talk to you.  So today go to your room, "Lord come into my life".  You don't imagine a God, you don't know what God is.  Ask the Creator to come into you... "You created me, you are my Father, I want to see you."  Then He will touch your life.  When I did that He touched my life.  When my wife did that God touched her; He touched my children.  He has touched hundreds of people.  He will touch you today.  That is why my friend, it is not my voice...

          You know when a man has no self that is not his soul.  A man who is unselfish he has a selfless soul... that is. God has to live in him.  If you have self you are living.  If you have no self and God fills you it is God living in you.  That is why today I come here with God; If you hear His voice open your heart, go to your room, "Lord I will never be satisfied until you come into my heart.  That is something great.  My dear friends, we don't give God any money.  We have not come to ask any money from you.  God never wants any money.  The sunlight is not for money, the air you breath is not for money, the rain water is not for money, even this peace is not for money, it is free.  If there is no value for anything you don't respect it.  This is your life.  It takes your karma away, it is your life.  But still you don't want it because it is free.  If somebody comes tomorrow and gives you a gift of a car, you will say thank you, thank you, thank you.  But for God who has done everything for you, your very life is depending on him; you never said one thank you.  Early morning get up, thank him, you will see that great light will come into your heart.  That is what we as a family do, get up at four o'clock in the morning... till six o'clock thanking and singing praises to God.  Our heart is full of light and the whole day nothing wrong happens to us, not even an accident, not even any trouble.  But today man begins the day not with God but with his own self.  He runs to prepare coffee first, and you will be like coffee only.  Man wants to do something for his stomach.

          Now if God had not created a stomach for us there won't be any business in this world.  Tooth paste is for the body, hotel (restaurant) is for the body; all over the world big ships and tanks and big, big Lorries and everything all for the stomach.  If God didn't create the stomach I don't think there would be any business or any boat or hotels or this or that, or automobile workshop or this or that; nothing would be there.

          But we have nothing for our soul.  This meeting is for your soul.  That is why I tell you in the beginning it is a bit difficult for you.  You spend half an hour with God, gradually you will get more and more power, you will increase that meditation.  Then it will become your life.  And God will tell you what is going to happen to you.  Nobody can do anything against you.  As I was travelling many accidents came and you know with all the accidents God saved us.  One day we were flying to Venezuela, suddenly our plane fell into the sea and the nose went down and the tail was on top and we were on top of the thing, and they came and saved us.  So many places there were difficulties, so many accidents.  God can save you from all these things.  Man's life is not stationary; Are you sure you can live tomorrow?  God never tells the time of your dying; if God tells that in one week you will die, all your activities will stop.  That is why God doesn't tell the time of your death.  But we are not sure when the death will come.  If we are so frail, one heart attack you go away.  Today many people are dying of heart attack.

          And many people do not know what a spirit is.  When a man dies, a suicide, that spirit will be loitering.  It can come into any man or woman.  One day an English lady was in the Ashram.  She said she was on the road, a Punjabi died and his spirit was in her.  And when we prayed.  God in this world there are so many evil things.  If you are not spiritual all these things will attack you.  Today the doctors say there are no evil spirits, that doctor himself is an evil spirited man.  There are evil spirits, it can come and possession you and give you endless trouble.  And no doctor can heal that.  You will go to a doctor he will say etiology unknown.  I was in the Vellore hospital, the doctors will say this man will die; we will pray and the next day that fellow will be healed.  The doctor will say your brain must be cut, after prayer that brain will be alright.  Do you think medical science has got all the answers?  You may be a big doctor but you may be blind for these evil spirits.  Some people are called mad but it is the evil spirit.  So there are so many things in a man.

          So my friends, when I pray, you may say what is the use of your praying?  I lay my hands on you.  When I lay my hands on you, it sucks everything evil in your body; in five minutes you are delivered.  You can feel it.  And your heart is empty, second time I pray asking God to fill you with His spirit, then you get the Shanthi (Peace).  You don't have to pay any money to me.  I don't care what religion you are, what community you are.  You are my own brothers, my countrymen; I am giving you what I have.  God gave it to me.  All praise and honour be to the Great God.  I love him and I want you to love Him.  Anybody who loves this God can never be sick or without peace.  That is why in every age, God sends His messenger.  But there are false messengers also.  You can see false currency, because there is false currency you don't throw out the good currency.  Because there is false currency that means there should be good currency.  If there are false people that means there must be correct good one.  Anybody who collects money cannot have God.  Today everywhere collecting money, collecting money for God as if God is a beggar.

          But God leads you, for forty five years my wife and three children and grand children and their wives, we have been living trusting God.  We never ask anybody any money, but everywhere all our needs are marvelously met.  Why I am telling this?  God knows what we need more than your telling Him.  Today about 300 people are in the Ashram all trusting God, and so many people in India.  They came to the realization that God can support people.  Man shall not live by working alone ... but he can live by trusting God for his needs.  That is not laziness.  And today we have found out that God meets all your needs.

          One day I was in Holland and those people never trust a black man.  So as I went there the leader said, "Mr. Lawrie we want you to wash all the plates here," they didn't know who I am, so I was washing the plates.  As I was washing the plates, one man came to commit suicide.  The man said this man wants to commit suicide Mr. Lawrie, talk to him.  They were trying to test me.  But I am cleaning the plates, hundreds of plates I had to wash every day.  So I was wondering, "Why God do I have to wash other people's plates?"  That night I was praying in the night, at 2 o' clock I was meditating.  There were looking through the keyhole.  The next day they called me, "Lawrie forgive us we thought you were an ordinary many, you are a praying and meditating man".  So they told me please forgive us.  Then they said this man wants to commit suicide.  I took him to the room.  After sometime, we prayed.  Great peace came into his heart.  And many people did not know that he was a rich man.  And he was the man called Mr. Frankalow.  You can see his toffees in all the places in foreign countries.  (After I prayed for him) he got up and said, "I got this shanthi.  God bless you."  After 20 years he wrote to me I am still living.  So I went to see him.  That man has become a very, very rich man.  He said, "Brother Lawrie I live today because of you.  You gave me the peace, Today I am very happy, I believe this message."

          He doesn't care who you are, white or black or yellow or anybody, everybody should have this peace.  A Brahmin or Shathriya or Sutra, it doesn't matter.  Everybody who gets this peace becomes a high caste.  He becomes a son of God, child of God.  So I am showing the way to become a child of God.  All these people giving testimonies, once they had peacelessness, and today they have peace.  And they are anxious to tell you what God has done for them.

          And that peace Narayana can give you.  That is why today, the time is running.  There is violence everywhere.  When violence is in the ascent the judgment is going to fall.  When violence is too much then God has to judge the people.  Democracy cannot do anything.  They can take a gun and shoot anybody.  Indira Gandhi was shot dead.  Today man has no value for the soul.  What does God say?  If a man has lost his soul there is no use of gaining the whole world for him.  He values the soul more than the world.  What does man value in the soul.  For a gun he kills the soul.  Man has no value but God has a value for your soul.

          Suppose I have a ring in a cardboard box, I don't throw the ring and keep the cardboard box.  This body is a clay body and we spend much time in polishing it and making it beautiful.  But nobody does anything for the costly ring inside.  Your soul is very important.  God can come into your soul.  If God comes into your soul you can't die.  Man lost that life, that is why you have to die.  But in the last days, when Narayana comes into His own body He brings that eternal life with Him.  And also He has got the medicine for karma.  So that is why... you many not believe me, but when I touch you, believe that karma is going.  Then when karma goes and you get that life which man has lost.  That is called eternal life.  Eternal life means you live forever.  Not in your soul but in your spiritual body.  If you don't have that spiritual body you are a naked man.  So suddenly God will change that body and give that glorious body.  A sinless body and a deathless body.  That He will do now very soon.

          So let us all get ready to get that body.  If anybody is sick today open your heart widely.  Now see, if somebody knocks at your door, you open the door he will come in.  So God is waiting to come into your heart.  Open your heart, say Paramathma come into my heart, my Creator come into my heart.  You will see that He comes into you, you will be the happiest man in the world.  And there is a time coming for us.  GOD BLESS YOU ALL.