JAIPUR MEETING MARCH 30, 1986

 THE HINDUS WILL SURELY WIN THE WHOLE WORLD WITH THE HELP OF GOD

JAIPUR MEETING MARCH 30, 1986

Gulab Nagar, Vichar Manch

 I consider it is a great privilege to be able to talk to you this great evening. I am an ardent lover of my country India. And as usual like other people I studied in college. I have read all patriots’ books and I know (about) Veera Savakar and many other people. And suddenly when the Gandhi movement came and Gandhi ordered the Civil Disobedient Movement I was a student leader in south India. That time my blood boiled and I was prepared even to die for my country. Many of my friends were shot by the police. But we were brave. At that time we had no fear and the students were held like magnet. And whatever I say they'll do it. But suddenly I was dismissed from college. So I left my studies. I wanted to study law and become a minister and serve the country. At that time I had to come to Ceylon by my father who was a big man there. He was an editor and he called be there to study. Since I lost my B.A., I was very much discouraged. But my love for Gandhi was so great. For five years I was studying all the political books. But suddenly when I heard that India was partitioned I said, a real patriot will not allow India to be partitioned. So I couldn't .... I couldn't ... I was not happy that Gandhiji... You know that division I was very unhappy. At that time, I was meditating because I know yoga. (I was) doing yogic exercises. In the jungles we went for meditation. There I got the realization of God. Then I left my job and came to India again. At that time India got independence. And all the people were very happy. At this time I was employed in the Vellore Medical College Hospital as the administrative Secretary. And my wife was dietician there. And they wanted to send me to America to study administration in a higher way. But in the hospital one day I was very seriously sick. And five years ago I promised God to serve Him fully, when my son was sick. But now I became sick. And the doctors said, you'll live only for 2 days because you are suffering from diphtheria. My wife was not interested in politics and she lived like a worldly woman. So we thought we may even separate. But when I was about to die my Spirit left the body and met God and He told me that He has got a great work in this world. And that night God met my wife also, a voice came to her and said, "You obey your husband and follow him where ever he goes". She was changed completely. So we left our jobs and started travelling from place to place with the three small children. As we left the job I found out God had blessed my right hand. Many people started getting healing. At that time I had a very big meeting in Madras where about one and a half million people were crowded there. And all the Hindus came, "You are an avatar of God and we wanted to see you". But at that time I was only politically minded I couldn't even receive these religious people.

          Then I was asked to come for a world conference in Glasgow. Many people came there. I was called to represent India. As I gave my lecture there, I was invited all over the world. So in 1959 I was travelling all over the world. Every country invited me. But I didn't know that the western countries would always want to enslave us. But I had a strong desire that I would never sell India or that I would never be a slave of anybody. So as I was going from place to place, they would call me nicely, take me in the car, and they will say, "Will you be our representative in India?" I said, "I am a representative of God, why should I be representative of western people?" Immediately they won't like you, they will chase you out.

          So I met many people. So one day in America I just went in a church because there was good singing. It was a white man's church. As I went in I was enjoying the music, suddenly some five or six goondas (thugs) came and beat me; beat me and put me out. And with pain all over the body I went to a bench and sat there. Then I was very angry, I said I wil go to India and see that every white man is out of India. At that time on my bench God was sitting there. He said, "Why are you angry? I am not in that church. When they put you out they put me out also.  I am sitting with you outside on the road. Tell the people not to see me in the church, I will be always on the road."

          In 1960 black people were treated very badly. Even the buses will have black people, white people seats. So when I sat in a white man's seat the conductor and the driver of the bus beat me there. But I went to other people also, they always secretly called me and say, "You be our agent." And they will trow money to you, dollars and dollars. I said, "I don't want money, I just wanted you to treat me as a human being with respect". Because I didn't join them I had no place in any place, I had to just walk on the roads. So I only used to meet these poor people like drunkards and all. They were friendly with me. I had many bad experience like that. But always in my heart even though I travelled all over. I saw Sadhu Yoganandha's people, the self-realization society. They all formed trusts there, they registered their groups. And they put the white man or woman as a leader. So when I moved closely with them they said, "White man always leads". But somehow or other I knew our culture was great and I used to tell them our Indians are practicing the Bible, you have the Bible but you don't practice the Bible, I would say.

          So the people wanted us to settle in western countries but my wife and I said, our children have no future in the western countries they must be in India; there only the culture is good. Like that I was travelling all over the world. Ten times I travelled, I never left out any country, we went to all the countries. For 45 years I have been travelling and meeting people and trying to understand them. But at this time (1969) I was a speaker in a world conference in America. At that time I was talking to a group like this. As I was preaching suddenly God showed the Vishwaroopa of Narayana. Then suddenly all the people saw fire coming from my eyes, they all started screaming. Then that day in my room as all were sleeping a terrible light came into my room and God was telling me in a voice, "I am concerned about India". I was very happy, at least God is concerned about India. And within one month in 1969 before man lands on the moon I must come into you and show you how to deliver India". Then I said, "I am a poor man, I have nothing here and everybody hates me and rejects me, how can I deliver India". Then in the night He explained the Vedas and Bhagavad Gita. He said, get up in the morning 12 o' clock (mid-night) He would ask me to get up. He said take the Bhagavad Gita, this is the meaning of Bhagavad Gita but all the people have changed the meaning. Then He'd take Koran, this is the rean thing but they added here, they have done mischief here. And He said take the Bible, the western people to enslave people, they have done all twisting work but this is the meaning of Bible. Then I published a book, immediately the western people got very angry.

          So at this time I was in Chicago; God told me, go to Chicago, I must come down in you. At that time there was terrible thunder, lightning as God came into me, I could see I was protected. Then as I was travelling, the Americans wanted to kill me there. As I was sleeping, they arranged to shoot me in the middle of the night. Then the voice of God came and told me there is a car waiting for you outside. Run and jump into the car, they will take you to Canada. Somebody slept in my place, they shot him thinking it was me. And not finding me they chased me upto Canada, four or five people with revolvers. There the Canadian police caught them and I escaped. Then a rich man took me in the car and dropped me off at the plane in New York and I came to India.

          Then I started studying these books, Vedas and all very carefully. And you know I became a vegetarian long time ago. Because that is our Indian culture; I found that was healthy also. I had blood pressure and piles and all, and after vegetarian diet all the blood pressure left me. Then as I was coming here, God brought me to India; I never left my political mind. When Jansangh people come here I used to give them money to help them attend meetings here from Tirunelveli from the South. Some people would say, "I want to attend this Jansangh meeting I have no money". I used to give them money because they are the only people fighting for the culture of India. Then I found in India that they give a lot of money for the Indians and then they want them to preach the religion of foreign countries in a different way. When I refused to join them they paid a lot of money to the people in the south to tell bad things about me. If anybody tells bad things about me they get 500 rupees a month. So everywhere they started telling bad about me, all the christians. As I was there one day some christians came to beat me. There were some RSS friends they jumped and warned the christian people, don't touch him. I had a meeting in the RSS hall there. People used to tell that the RSS are creating trouble, they shot Mahatma Gandhi. Then later on I understood that when this partition came, that the real Indian people could not tolerate that. I don't think of India as a partitioned India, even today I think that India means Indonesia, Pakistan, Ceylon, Malaya, Indo-China, and all over the place, I think it is India. Because even though they are separated.... but my heart never separates from them, it is my country and one day it will come to us. Because, God told me, the future is in the hands of the hindus and I raised you for them. Then I didn't know, I studied all the Bhagavad Gita and everything, but I didn't have friends there because most of the time I spent in the world countries. Then I studied very hard all the books, the Vedas of India and all the states. Then my wife and I dedicated our lives for the Indian people. India cannot be divided by states or anything, the Indian heart is one.

          And this ahimsa came. Usually people think ahimsa is getting a kicking from other people. One day in England some two white people were beating a black man and they were beating so much, blood was coming from his mouth. So I asked the black man, I went and stood near him and said, "Why are you getting a beating from two small fellows, you are a huge fellow like an elephant, why are they beating you?" "Oh our master Jesus said that we must show the other cheek". He said, "That is what Jesus said". "If Jesus said that I don't want that Jesus, you are thinking in a different way. Our India was enslaved because of their teaching only". Because the white fellows were beating the black man I got so angry I went and beat the two fellows. So then those two people started attacking me and said, "Why are you beating us?" "Because you are beating that fellow". Then they said, "He is showing the cheek so we are beating him". So I said, "I beat you first why don't you show your cheek". Then they said, "White people will never show their cheek". And from this black man got a revelation; "That means because you beat me I should show my cheek, now Brother Lawrie beat you why don't you show your cheek?" They he went and attacked them. Seven years afterwards I went to London. There was a black lady, she was attacking a white man. Then I went and told her. "Sister, why do you want to beat a white man". Seven years ago a man came from India and opened the understanding of our leader, from that time we give the first blow. I said, "What is his name?" "He is one Lawrie". "Sister I am here standing in front of you". She fell down at my feet and said, "You brought deliverence to the black people, you gave the understanding about Jesus Word". So I told him, "If you are showing the cheek, did Jesus really mean that?"

          Now ahimsa without God helping us, there is no use. Then only I found out; After moon landing day I went to a place, some people came to beat me. Then suddenly a mysterious power beat the people, I kept quiet. Then God gave me a revelation about ahimsa. Ahimsa doesn't mean a weakness, ahimsa means power from God to attack the enemy. And we keep quiet and the power from God beats them, not to just get a beating; We don't attack them but God attacks these people.

          Now this Mahabaratha war, 'Duryodhana' had all the armies but the Pandavas were small in number. But they had Krishna with them and nobody could destroy them. So I believe... many people simply talk, "God, God!" When we realize God we get His power to attack. So in India we are divided so much, every state thinks in their own way. So one man was telling, "Is there no hope for India?" Many people have been fighting for India. Subbash Chandra Bose has fought, many people fought, many people died. But the people who never fought they enjoy. So when you study all their lives, God never leaves us like this forever, because the avatar comes when the Dharma goes down. So when God came down on moon landing day, then He said, "You have got a great work in India". I was very happy because I love my country, I wanted to be in India. I never joined any foreign denomination, I could never believe that we people in India can also guide the whole world. Then after I studied these religious books I could find out where they have failed. Everybody tried. Now Indira Gandhi was there suddenly she was shot; And every where we are in tension today. And democracy we think it is going on like this but suddenly somebody is shot. When violence is in the increase God has to come down and then when you see all the different nations have an eye on India. But God has told me India will ultimately win.

          So today India cannot be united in the name of these religions. It can be united under Narayana and also the power of God in you. Because every religion is divided here. The muslims have Koran, but they don't do what Koran says, the christians have the Bible, they don't do what the Bible says. The hindus don't do what Bhagavad Gita says. If you read Bhagavad Gita surely the way Krishna won the war we also can win with Krishna. If five Pandavas could win the whole Duryodhanas, with one group of devoted, undivided people, India can be set free in everything.

          Then I knew, these RSS and all these people are only fighting for Indian culture. Without that, Indian culture would have gone to pieces. And my dear friends, British cannot convert all the people, muslims cannot convert the whole thing. They ruled the country for 200 years. Some people here, some people there were converted but the real cream is in India. They were not enamored by the foreign religions. The muslims look to Mecca, the christians look to Rome and America; Where will the true hindus look to? This is their country, they can look only to God. And God has promised them that He would come down and help them. The only thing is we must know the proper time when He will come down. When He comes down then the victory is ours, if we strike earlier we won't have victory. All the martyrs and saints of God they struck earlier. But now is the time, so let all the hindus come as one people. I know what is in your heart. When the Pope came to India who opposed that? Everybody wanted the Pope but only RSS and other people opposed it. Why? They had guts. And today if India is to come up very high, hindus will have to become one nation and they will really win because with all the country's Vedas they know that something great is coming from India.

          The national anthem of Jews says, "Look to the east, from there the light will come". It is true it is their national anthem. "So long as you look to the east you will never perish". So something is coming from the East. No religion started from the west, every religion started only like a sunrise from the east. Even Christ is an easterner, Mohammad is an easterner, Buddha is an easterner; all came from the east. The only thing is we didn't get power to overcome the world by Sathvik means, that means by Satyagraha. If you see the Koran it doesn't say you must convert by the sword. It clearly says, "You don't attack anybody by the sword to convert".

          You know one day I was in America, a group of people called missionaries, they were praying. I suddenly went into that building and sat there. They didn't know that I had come. So the missionaries to Haiti before you invade that island; because before the military goes they send the missionaries. So after telephoning Kennedy I was there. So I asked the missionary, "What is wrong with you, why should the missionaries go before the military goes? Why should you telephone Kennedy for sending missionaries?" "That is what we do. We send the missionaries and tell them to show the cheek and then the military comes". Then I knew their trick. "Oh this is how they are using the Word of Jesus as a weapon to subdue other nations. So when I travelled all over the world when I studied them, I said, nobody should be converted to Christianity because you need not change your name Find out God in your own life. Then many hindus came, muslims came to the ashram and we made them make a vow never to join any christian church. So the christians are telling, after Brother Lawrie, nobody becomes a christian.

          They slowly go and ask his name, "Did you change your name?" "No". "Yes we are hindus". "But What is Lawrie?" "He is also a hindu". Then immediately trouble came from the christians. In the ashram round about there are all protestants and catholics. They started attacking us and we also stood firm. And we couldn't get electricity, we couldn't get a road, no letters would come properly. And today God has delivered us from all.

          And with a great love for the hindus I have come. You may not understand me because I am talking in English, not that I don't love Hindi. I can read Hindi but the main thing is I am from the south, I can't speak it. I have been preaching in English for 45 years so you have to forgive me for that. I don't know properly my own mother tongue also but I am determined to study Hindi in a few months. Next time I want to talk to you in Hindi because it is only will power. Now I am in India I must learn it. Reading is easy, speaking is a little bit difficult for us. But that also we can do, for the sake of the country I will do that also.

          So I am at your service here, whatever you want to use me I am ready to do. But you know I am loyal to India. India must not be like this, India must be a world power in the future. Since Narayana has come down I know it will happen.

          According to Bhagavad Gita God has to come in which place we know. There is Ramachandrajee of Sahaj-Marg, he tells it. Our Indian national anthem, "Victory to you, victory to the one who has the destiny of India". Somebody has the destiny of India in hand, that is the one who has to come. So I asked some people "Tagore has given that national anthem," ... I studied Tagore's books Geethanjali and other books. I am telling he was not meaning British Government. People say, "Oh tagore was singing about Queen Victoria. They are not holding the destiny of India today; their time is gone. So who has the destiny of India? God has to come down like Pandavas to us. I still believe that the true hindus were not converted to christianity or muslim religion. They are the true Pandavas. You may be discouraged. You may say, we have no future. But God knows your heart. Surely God will help you and one day you'll be able to teach the other nations. With the help of God the hindus will surely win the whole world. That is my ambition.

Gurudev Shri Lahari Krishna