7. We have not come to convert you
1 Today many people walk in this
world without thinking about their future. They think this world is the
ultimate end of man, so they can do anything they like and nobody keeps account
of what they do. So they don't care for their future life. As I told you, if
there is no life after death, that: If this world is the end, then there is no
necessity of leading a good life, or be afraid of God. But God is seeing you;
all what you do. He knows what you do, what you didn't.
2 So in the beginning, when He
sees you, He selected some people for glory. That is why people who are
interested in the books of God, they are created before the foundation of the
world. That is why when you come into this world you are not interested in
anything of this world. The worldly people will fool you; but God loves you
because you are selected before the foundation of the world. We have come here
to prove that God’s selection is not wrong. So you have natural love for God,
even though you are not perfect.
3 And if you listen to me
carefully, I am giving you some cream from all the books which I have read for
forty five years. You’ll find it very valuable. If you go to a Christian, he’ll
talk only about Bible and nothing else. He’ll simply say: You all will go to
hell, that they’ll go in glory.
4 But God knows the thoughts of
the people. He kept so many secrets hidden, to be revealed at this time. That
is why, what Christians know all these years, most of them are wrong now.
5 In the same way, if you study
Koran, the people don’t do what Koran says. It doesn’t talk about converting by
force. Many people in India were converted by force to Muslim religion. But
Koran never approves that. It says: “Never go to fight, but if somebody comes
to attack you, you defend and in the defence, if somebody dies, God will forgive
you.”
6 And even in Christianity,
people don’t understand what Jesus said. What did the British do? He said,
“Turn that one cheek if somebody beats you, and show the other cheek.” So many
Christians, they were showing the other cheek and they became slaves.
7 Today, even though India is
free, we are not free from the religious slavery. We are afraid of any
religious leader and to disobey him, because he’ll create trouble. So there is
a religious slavery. In the western countries also there is religious slavery.
8 Man is not free to think as he
likes. Man is not free to think the truth. That is why we come, to give you the
truth. So other people get angry because they dilute the truth. You know, by
telling the truth, we are not blessed by the other people, but you get a
blessing. If we tell something wrong, you can point that to us.
9 But today, now suppose I go to
the Christians and say: “Om Narayana”, they’ll throw stones at me. If I go to a
Hindu and say: “Allah-Ho-Akbar”, they get angry. That means: All these people
are only carnal people.
10 We have got five senses. Bhagavad
Gita clearly tells, that you should not get in touch with the five sense
objects. We have got all kinds of desires in this life.
11 Suppose you go to buy sarees, the
merchant puts so many sarees in front of you. That doesn’t mean that you should
buy everything. But when you say, “I want this saree”, you have to pay for it.
Like that, so many bad thoughts will come in our lives. You should not be
afraid of the thoughts, because that is our human nature. But when you put your
hand on that, you have to pay for it.
12 You know, this house we live in,
is given by God. My brother and sister: This body which God has given you, is a
very precious body. Another man cannot make this. But see the nature, the
beautiful eyes and the body, and so nicely done, very minute work. No man can
do this.
13 Today many people say, there is
no God. They will say, nature is God. But suppose you take a chicken: Where did
the egg come from? And: Hen or egg came first?
14 One Atheist was there. A child
asked him a question: “Which came first, egg or hen?” He said: “Hen came
first.” - “From which egg that hen came?” He was caught. He could not say
anything. Then the girl said, “Do you believe, that there should have been a
hen first, or an egg first? The one who made that is God”.
15 So today, many people have a
wrong idea about God. God knows who you are. His eyes are seeing from thousands
of years, who you are and what nature you have, what family you come; He knows
it. That is why the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. So the worldly
force wants to destroy that fear. But the fear of the Lord is the beginning of
wisdom.
16 Teach your children the fear of
God. Don’t allow them to go as they like in this world; then you will find it
difficult to bring the children back.
17 So while we are travelling like
this... We didn’t come to form a religion. Our religion is in the books. We are
telling what the books say. If you find that we are telling a wrong thing, we
challenge you to come and ask us. But you may not understand because your eyes
are blind.
18 But today, Narayana when He came
down, He opened our understanding. This knowledge which we have today is not my
knowledge. It is that Parama Purusha’s knowledge. That is why I am challenging
you. There are many Avatars in India. After he dies, even then he is an Avatar.
19 Today most religions are based on
the people who are dead already. It starts from the grave. How can - when a man
dies - have a religion? God is eternal. He is the same, yesterday, today and
forever. What He was before, He’ll be tomorrow. He never changes. All things
are possible to Him. You may say, “Can my bent hand become normal?” I’ll tell
you, all things are possible to God!
20 Many miracles have happened in
our lives. In 1953, we left the Vellore Medical College Hospital. And according
to God, we sold everything and gave it to the poor people. I am not telling you
to do that. My wife and I, and three small children, we sold everything and
gave it to the poor people; and we had five rupees in the hand. Because God
told us to do, we did that. For fourteen days, none of us had any food. So I
had my certificates. My children were crying and I tore my certificates
thinking, I might go for job again.
21 Because God called us, we wanted
to follow Him fully. After fourteen days, my small son - third son, nine months
old, he sang like a forty eight years old man: “That Eternal God will never
fail”. After fourteen days starvation we got a new courage. And then early
morning my wife went to the market. I said, “Why are you going, where is the
money?” - “God never fails”. As she went, 'Akashawani'1, that voice, spoke to a lady: “Go and give this lady
all money.” She came back home with all the food stuff.
22 That evening I had no money to
take a shave. I had no money to buy anything. I had a torn shirt. At this time
one man came running: “Bro. Lawrie, my wife died. And it is about six hours,
and she had come from the hospital. The body is there. My whole house is in
sorrow. Today is the wedding day. We want you to come and pray and bury her.” I
said, “Alright.” So when I went there, I saw the body. As I was keeping my
hand, within five minutes that lady opened the eyes. I got so afraid. This dead
woman has come to life! Is it possible? That lady lives today.
23 From that day we have travelled
all over the world, miracles happened. That is before Narayana came down. Now
He has come like a thief.
24 Thief doesn’t come to steal old
pots. He comes to steal ‘Bangaru’2- gold,
people of golden character; strong people of God. That is why He has comes
secretly.
25 Today people say: “Brother, show
us some miracle, bring vibuthi3, do
some miracles so that we can believe you.” I have not come here to do miracle
and show stunts. I can give you peace. And when that peace comes, light comes,
darkness will go away! That is why, even if you open your heart to God, you
will get peace while you are standing.
26 So from that day, we have been
preaching the truth to all the nations. Many people said: “Don’t preach like
that; we will give you lot of money.” Today, if we don’t preach the truth,
we’ll get lot of money and we’ll be very rich. So we didn’t want money. We
didn’t want position and fame. That is why we wanted to be simple and tell you
the truth and go.
27 Please don’t mistake. We have not
come to convert you. We have not come to change your name. We love you because
you are Indians. I can’t see India divided like this and fighting like this, in
the name of religion. So, even though we had great blessings in other
countries, against their wish we came to India. This truth is for the poor
people. You may be a very bad man. Doesn’t matter.
28 In the Bhagavad Gita,... Before
that I want to tell you: God has given a house. This house is God given house.
This is not your own. This is a rented house. And God has put the soul into
this body. And usually we have to give one month notice for vacating a house.
And we have to pay the rent. But we stay in this house and talk so many dirty
things against our owner.
29 I want you to just think about
it. This body is not your own. This is a rented house. Now in Bhilai, if you
are in a rented house, you can’t make it your own. And you have to pay the
rent. Have you any time paid the rent? What is the rent for this house? Thank
God, for giving this house. If you don’t even thank Him, what a great wicked
person you are! “Oh, Parameshwara! Thank you for this nice house You have given
me!” Then what blessing can you get from God? You have not paid your rent. And
if you want to quit this house, He won’t give one month notice. If He says:
“Get out”, you open your mouth and you fall down dead. Will you leave a house
without getting another house? Have you found out another house not made by
hands, but by God?
30 In this age, this body suddenly
changes into a glorious body. That is why - man originally lost this. Suppose
man went to moon and he cannot come back, he can’t be an earthly man, he must
be a moon man. In the same way, we came from heaven and now have settled down
in the earth. We are not able to go back to our own country.
31 Suppose I am an American, I won’t
be happy in India. One day or other I will go to America. You are a heavenly
person, how can you settle down in this country? These people who have five
senses, belong to the earth. People who don’t believe in the five senses,
belong to heaven. For them Shri Narayana comes to take you in that glory. So
have you paid the rent? Have you found out a good house, before you can vacate
this house? So my friends, if you have this body as a house, you will be very
careful.
32 Suppose you got a ring in a
cardboard box, you won’t keep that cardboard box and throw the ring away. This
soul is like a ring, this body is like a cardboard box. Why you are so
interested in the cardboard box and not in the soul which is like ring? So see
that that ring is preserved.
33 That is why, today I want to tell
you, for those who seek Narayana, you have a glory very soon. That is why He
went to heaven. He went to prepare a place for you. After He prepared, He will
come and take you. He comes to the earth to take you. That is why today, many
people don't understand God's ways.
34 When Jesus was in this world,
nobody recognized Him; they killed Him. When our Gandhiji was in this world,
they only told: “He is a naked fakhir.” Naked fakhir means saint. Only after
death, they recognized him. Like this, even Shri Krishna, they couldn't
recognize Him.
35 Then Rama went to Vanavasam4. Many would have thought, if He was an Avatar, why
should He go to the jungle? Many people did not believe Him. But He brought
salvation for many people. He killed the wrong people and preserved the good
people.
36 So like that, even in this last
days, according to Bhagavad Gita, according to Bhagavatham, according to Vedas,
according to the Bible, according to Koran, He has to come. That’s why I tell
you, He doesn’t come as people think. He has to come according to - as it is
written in the books of God. So the people who believe the books of God will
believe it and they’ll see His coming.
37 And today we must understand
about God. Many people say, there are three gods and thirty two crores of gods.
But there is only one God whom we can worship. That God: Form is a man, but inside,
it is not His ‘self’, inside is the glory of God. That is why the Bible says
and Bhagavad Gita says, we must worship God in spirit and truth. The spirit is
called Shakthi. You must worship God in Shakthi and in truth. And the Spirit is
the unseen God. The form is a man. That is called Parama Purusha. So, what is
coming from His mouth is God’s. Because His own self is not there. He cannot
die. What comes from His mouth is truth. That’s the only Person who can be
called God.
38 So God made this Parama Purusha.
But before He became Parama Purusha, He had to be sacrificed in Human body.
That is why He was holy without sin. And that body, the Spirit was taken out
and God occupied Him. That was called Word. And that Word has power to get into
any ‘body’. It has got power to create. It has power to destroy. And His Spirit
in Him can be taken and be put into any man. And that's called Spirit of the
Lord coming into that man and he will be a prophet. And that is God coming in
the flesh. He’ll come to the earth and talk the truth and after His period
he’ll go away. That is not Narayana, Narayana’s spirit comes into people.
39 But when God selected the Parama
Purusha, He was a man who has to come into this world at the end time. Because
there is one God, one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. That
Parama Purusha can only reveal the nature of God. So He had to come as Avatar.
Every Avatar taught a new truth of God.
40 Shri Krishna taught many truths
for that age. He talked about rebirth. I am not coming to tell you that there
is no rebirth. I want to tell you that you can overcome every rebirth. You
don’t have to have rebirth, because Bhagavad Gita says how to overcome rebirth.
If you know how to overcome rebirth, why do you want to have rebirth? That is
not for you! That is for the worldly people to go under rebirth.
41 If God has selected you before
the foundation of the world, you’ll never go by rebirth, you get into Krishna.
You get into Krishna conscience, you get into Narayana conscience, you get into
Christ Jesus conscience. Others cannot have that.
42 But God, when He did that, He
wanted to reveal the nature of God. So He wanted to reveal His love. Today man
talks about love. These are all futile love. “The true love”, they’ll say, but
afterwards disappointment comes. Many people love girls and get disappointed.
Many girls love boys and they get disappointed. This five senses will not make
you keep quiet. This is the reason for all our trouble. But who has given the
medicine? They’ll say: “The reason is lust.” But nobody says how to overcome
lust. So that is why, today people read and say, all the reason is this five
senses; but nobody knows the power to overcome that. That is why Sacrifice
comes.
43 Without sacrifice there is no
remission of your sins. But the people changed this animal killing into putting
ghee only. And they called it sacrifice. But actually Bhagavad Gita says, when
a sacrifice is given, if you eat the balance of the Sacrifice, your sins will
go. But when you put ghee, no balance
is there. This is all made by man, but it is not true Bhagavad Gita. True
Bhagavad Gita calls God to do the sacrifice. So God has to come down as a
sacrifice. The same thing, that Narayana came as a sacrifice. But that is the
medicine for Karma. He was sinless.
44 Now see how your sin can go: Even
today in some Hindu temples they sacrifice animals. There is a Iamb here. They
put the hands on that, so that their Karma will go away. And that animal is
killed and burnt to ashes. So this sacrifice won’t come to life. But in death
of that animal, we get life. But animal blood cannot help us. Because we are in
sin, we can’t help. So we tried so many things, and God knew this. That is why
He had to come as a Sacrifice. Only He can take that Karma away. That is in
Bhagavad Gita; that is in vedas. But why did they change it?
45 That is why today, many people in
India are good people. But, they don’t have that truth about sacrifice. If they
take it, the whole Indian Nation will be blessed and they’ll get God’s blessing.
The Vedas say: “If you don’t accept the Sacrifice of Parama Purusha, you won’t
get even rain.” That's a fact. If you go round other countries...
46 I was going from country to
country: Germany, Switzerland, England, everywhere sin is greater than in
India. But they have all blessings. Even though they are bad they have taken
the sacrifice - the Sacrifice of Narayana. But we in India, we are pouring only
ghee and satisfied with that sacrifice. That is why sacrifice doesn’t leave us.
47 We have a Gayathry Manthram. You
know Gayathry means, making the body as a flame and burning it. And God gave
eternal life. So, to overcome all the devils and all the witchcraft, all the
power of the enemy, we have got a Gayathry Manthram. If they tell that, no devil
can come, no witchcraft can hurt you. That is why only, in the camp meetings we
tell that manthram, so that the people can get blessings. It is a sacred thing.
48 And many people today, get
blessings from the evil power. Today if man gets angry - today when a man gets
angry, he does some witchcraft. With all our prayers we can’t overcome that.
49 I know that you are good people.
But God sees not good people or bad people. His idea is: “Everybody is bad, no
good man.” Because in this body we can’t lead a good life. You may try to say
that you are a good man. But when you take that Sacrifice, that is God’s death
for you, you take His life. That’s the thing, that you’ll be hundred percent
holy. With this, your holiness, you cannot go in glory. That is why, God
knowing our condition, He came down as a sacrifice. Because these denominations
made a rule and conditions, that also, the people made it a denomination.
50 So that sacrifice came into my
body. So I am carrying that sacrifice with me. This peace nobody can give you
in this world. I am giving you this peace as no other man gives you. They may
show magic and tricks. They may do miracles. That will not give you peace. But
in the name of Narayana, in the name of that one God, Christ Jesus, in the name
of Allah: He came down in the flesh, to do that sacrifice for you.
51 And today, we have life today! If
you take that sacrifice, you don't have to sacrifice, you get righteousness of
God. Righteousness of God is not your holiness. We are bad people. When you
take God’s holiness, that is the holiness which God likes. If you read the
books, in the Bible there is one thing. - Many of the Hindus in India, they are
people who are waiting for Krishna. But they once took this Sacrifice. But they
left the righteousness of God and they loved the daughter of a strange God.
They left God and became shakthi worshippers. So they lost the power. So all
shakthi worshippers, I want you to faithfully take that sacrifice today, by
accepting me. Then you get that holiness, where God will regard you sinless.
You won’t have rebirth. And you get the ultimate - into Krishna, Narayana.
52 That is why, if you go to your
house, you meditate. And when you meditate on Narayana, He is your creator. You
ask Him, who this man is: “Is He cheating us? Whether He has come to fool you?
Whether He has power to take away your sins?” And sincerely ask Him. I’ll
appear to you, then you believe. But before that, if you today believe this,
this message....
53 That is why, in other countries
they are bad people, but they have taken the sacrifice. You are very good
people but without the sacrifice; so this disunity in this country. So the
remedy for India is, nobody can solve this. Nobody can preserve this. Even
R.S.S.5 cannot do that, even States can’t do that.
Only Narayana come down can do that. He is waiting for the lakh and forty four
thousand. Then He starts fighting. No one can stand, when He fights. Now He
doesn’t fight. Now He is like a man who is afraid, like a man who wants
protection.
54 That is, for your sake, come
running to God without condition. I don’t want to make you another religion.
Whatever religion you have, worship the Creator and not the creature! Make that
determination. Most of your sickness will go. Take that sacrifice of Narayana. He
has come to you on the Moon-landing-Day, bringing you that peace. You can be in
any religion you want. But get this peace and get away from karma.
55 So today, I am going to give you
a mass prayer. Tell this prayer after me sincerely. I want every one of you to
get up. Sincerely tell this prayer after me and make this country a blessed
country. You may belong to any State. God is not interested in these divisions.
God believes in one India. He holds the destiny of India in His hands. So tell
this Prayer after me. As I tell this, loudly tell it. I don't want you to come
to a religion.
56 Our loving Creator, we believe
Shri Narayana has come down, and is living in Lawrie Krishna. We believe that
He has come here to give us peace. We will worship only our Creator. We will
not join any religion of this world. We'll throw out all our false practises.
We surrender our lives to Shri Narayana. We want You to bless our country. We
want You to bless our home. We believe that we can overcome death in this
generation. As Bro. Lawrie prays, let the Spirit of the Lord come into our
lives, and bless us.
57 In the new name of God.... Now I
am going to pray for your healing and for your blessing. Close your eyes and
put your right hand on the sick part of your body. Put your right hand on the
heart if you have no peace. If you have any loved ones far away, sick, remember
them now. If you want any transfer, you can remember now. If you want any job,
every problem He cares for you. If your wife is separated, if your husband is
separated, he’ll come running to you today. God answers prayers.
58 In the new name of God Narayana:
I command all the sickness to get out of the bodies. Pour thy spirit on the
people. Every demon power, every witchcraft I cast out in the new name of God!
Fill them with the Spirit of God! Fill them with the Spirit of God!! Heal their
bodies! Bless their loved ones far away. Bless the relations of all the people
who are gathered here. Bless all the people of this country. Let the power of
God heal the people here. Let them get peace! Fill them with the Spirit of God!
Fill them with the Spirit of God!! Heal them. Every devil get out right now and
enter no more! Every incurable disease be healed. Every cancer dry up. Every TB
get out. Every twisted limb come forth to normal. Lord let everybody be healthy
today! In the new name of the Lord - Narayana. Thank you Lord.
--
Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie
June
09, 1986
Bhilai
- Day 7
1 Akashawani
- Celestial voice
2 Bangaru
- Gold
3 Vibuthi
- Holy ash
4 Vanavasam
- Exile; In the story of Ramayana, Shri Rama had to be in the forest for twelve
years. That was called as Vanavasam.
5 R.S.S.
- Rhastriya Swayam Sewak - a Hindu religious based political party in India.