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1                                  .....They died in that. But they didn't expect that they will die in that. But nobody could warn them. But we should have died, but we got saved. That is the salvation for that moment. Does it mean that we won’t have future accidents? 

2                                  Today everybody said, ‘We were saved, we were saved, we were saved.’ It is like giving coffee. Now I have been preaching for forty years, even from Billy Graham till now, everybody is talking about salvation, salvation, salvation. And everybody is very happy because it's preached about salvation. 

3                                  I want to openly tell certain things which I learnt through my forty years experience. Otherwise God will blame me. I am not afraid of anybody. 

4                                  In Madras when we were having the big meetings, one million people in Moore market, the last day I had a terrible battle in my home. Some thing told me, ‘Are you telling the truth to the people, or you want to please people?’ I couldn’t sleep that night. So my wife asked me, “Why are you crying in the night?” - “Because I want to tell the truth. But if I tell the truth, tomorrow I will be thrown out. And otherwise, I will become a famous man in Ceylon and in India.” So I was between life and death that night. So many of my friends came and advised me, “You have to have some wisdom.” I thought wisdom is good. But what kind of wisdom is this - I didn’t know. ‘Whether as a servant of God, called by God I should tell the truth or hide the truth?’ 

5                                  I was called by God directly. I have direct ministry for this generation. And today people can make a man popular; but I can’t do that. Because God tells me to do something, I’ll just do it. Paul tells, ‘Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?’ (Galatians 4:16) Paul was beaten. 

6                                  And then this word came to me. So that day a big crowd came. And another thing also, people suggested, ‘Why don’t you take any offering?’ I said, “I am called by God, God will meet my needs.” So at that time, when I was preaching, again the Spirit of God reminded me, ‘Tell the truth.’ So I was very much nervous. My wife sent a note, ‘Talk a little cautiously; talk prudently.’ But suddenly the Spirit took control of me. So I said, “These are truths which I learnt in my ministry!” 

7                                  I didn’t sell the truth, but bought the truth. Today a man can sell the truth for the sake of ten dollars. They can sell for a dosai or idli1. But today, if all the servants of God are standing for the truth, God cannot destroy this country. Otherwise Jesus must go and ask the forgiveness from Sodom Gomorrah for destroying Sodom Gomorrah. Because the people are here, worse than Sodom Gomorrah. There is lot of violence now. And this is like Noah’s days. There is no security anywhere. You can’t go alone to some place. And the ladies have no security to go alone. This was not twenty years ago. Thirty years ago it was still good. And we know, things are changing. But we don’t realise that. We are just standing on a volcano, but we do not know it will burst at any moment. So we have to be careful and know the times and where we are standing today. 

8                                  If there is anything wrong, you can come in the afternoon meetings and tell us what is wrong. If I am wrong, I will correct myself. But if you are wrong, are you willing to correct yourself? God always had two ways: way of life and way of death. 

9                                  One day a rich man came to Jesus. ‘What should I do to gain eternal life?’ (Matthew 19:16) He wanted to do something to gain eternal life. 

10                              This yoga is not to do something to gain eternal life. It is to help you meditate on God. That is, this brother is Rev. Swamikkan. He is a priest of the Coimbatore diocese. He went to Kashmir and he learnt this yoga. So he is teaching us yoga in our Ashram. It is not transcendental meditation. It is meditation on the Lord God, so that you will be able to concentrate on Jesus. That will help you in your private life. When you are alone, then you will be able to meditate on God. I was a yogi for six years in ceylon. So I know this is a great blessing for meditation. So we adopted in Ashram. 

11                              So in these meetings we want to be a blessing to you. That is why God arranged these meetings for nearly eight days. There are lot of people coming tomorrow. And we will finish the meeting earlier for your comfort. 

12                              So when I preached on that meeting, next day I became very unpopular. Before that everybody will say, ‘Brother Lawrie, you are a faithful man for God.’ Next day: ‘Thief, robber, he is plundering!’ So many talks. ‘Brother Lawrie is having an image - lingam2. He is wearing rudratcha3.’ But all that is wrong. One thing is true. I have never left Jesus Christ, I will never leave Him. Because He is my life! 

13                              So I have a duty towards this country; not for Tamil people alone. There are lot of Andhras who all have been blessed in this ministry. Today God is bringing lot of non-Christians. Why? Because they realise there is something great truth in Jesus. 

14                              Today what we do is, we thought Christianity came from Western countries. No! It is our religion. You know in British time, they took all our rubber, and they sent Manchester tyres. What did the Indians say? ‘Did you see the American tyre! Have you seen the London tyre?’ But from where only did the rubber go? It only went from the East. I am telling about the rubber that went from India. I am not telling the Manchester tyres. Because Jesus belonged to Asia - Asia Jothi. 

15                              Two thousand years ago, Apostle Thomas came. He came to Kerala state. And Jesus sent twelve disciples. India got the unbelieving Thomas. And he was killed in Thomas mount. Today what do we say? 'St. Thomas mount'. Do we think about this? Do we think that Thomas the apostle came and died? He was not like the present day Christian preachers. He was willing to die for Jesus. What do the people say today? 'We are ready to die as martyrs'. Why? For not following the truth. 

16                              If you follow the truth today and understand our message, you can overcome death in this generation! I can hide this truth. But this truth,..... Not any truth will take you in glory! You may say, ‘I am twenty years in the Pentecost.’ Your message will never take you one foot from the earth. But this message, will help you to transform your bodies and go without death. That is why these meetings were arranged. So I am placing before you way of life and death. 

17                              This rich man, he had a lot of money; but he knew he was getting old, he had to die. He got into the fear of death. When you are young : ‘Hey, what you fellow?!’ When aged.... What is my age now? ‘Sixty four - is it not ?’ I am sixty four years old now. One day one fellow told me, “Brother, you are only forty - you only appear forty.” - “Hey you! I am sixty four.” - “No sir! If you wear a wig, you would be just a youth!” 

18                              My dear friends, why do we become old? Now listen. How do you calculate your time? When the earth goes around the sun, it goes within 365 days. You are in the earth; you calculate with the sun. After 365 days you become one year old. Suppose you are sixty years old, the earth has gone round the sun sixty times. So we think, “My! I am sixty years old, sixty years old. The house says, ‘Get away, get away’, and the burial yard says, ‘Come, come.’ What will I do now? When you walk : “Now the hip pains a little of course!” We think that we are seventy years and we have become old.

We want to go, we take the time. “10 o’ clock - ‘I’ll sleep.” Why should you lay down at 10 o’clock? This is your god! “10 o’ clock -  Put off the light! I must lay down.” 

19                              So we act our times only according to the sun. We become sun worshippers. But we are not in Christ. Those who are in Christ Jesus, they don’t calculate their time by sun. Now I am in the earth, by some means I go to the sun. If I become sixty years old here, suppose I live in the sun, how old would I be now? How many years would I have crossed? You can’t calculate. If you go by the sun,..... 

20                              One day, this came to me when I was flying. Now this is evening. And in America it is morning. If I take the plane now from here and go to America, suppose I travel in six hours, I am going with the sun. So when I reach America, I would have lost many hours. It will be about 2 o’ clock, when I travel so many hours. But if I go through Japan, I gain more days. So suppose I am rotating by the plane, for a day I lose about six hours. After some time, when you should be sixty years old, you would be only less years. So when we calculate by our sun, ‘Iyyoh! I’m eighty years old. Rheumatism is coming, back is paining.’ Why should it pain? Our imagination brings death very quickly. 

21                              My wife was sick sometime ago and she was telling, “Our time is coming to a close.” I said, “Let us both join together and pray.” And today, she is coming and sitting here. Many people said, “Sis. Lawrie will not survive.” And the news spreads out in so many places, all will immediately say, that she is dead already. What they desire, they will say. But we must realise, a time is coming when time shall be no more. We don’t calculate time. In Revelation it is said, ‘Time shall be no more.’ ‘There won’t be ‘time’ any more. Why? We don’t calculate by the sun. Some people say, ‘Then why do you want a watch?’ I don’t look at a watch. If someone comes, I will show it like this to see the time. I won’t have a watch. But wearing a watch is fashion.

22                              So like that, this rich man said: ‘I have aged, I will have to die hereafter. What should I

do with that money?’ This problem had come. For a man without money, he can die any day. Suppose you have got lot of money? ‘Oh, where to leave it?’ You won’t sleep. So he came to Jesus, ‘Good master...’ See, not ‘bad master’ it seems. There are good masters as well as bad masters it seems; He is good it seems. Immediately he strikes back, “There is none good but God.” So Jesus, He didn’t call himself as good. What does He say for the saying ‘good master’? He says that there is none good but God. (Matthew 19:17)

23                              Then immediately He said, “Sell everything and give it to the poor.” What does this fellow say?  “I am asking eternal life for this wealth only. But if He asks to give up everything as a whole!? I don’t want that eternal life!” Why he asked that, was to enjoy that money. So he was asking for some Kayakalpam4. 

24                              The other day I asked a fellow: ‘So many Rishis5, they wrote so many things, how to make iron gold.’ So I got into a group of people. “Brother we have found that brother. If you put that herb and put it here, and put this there, iron will become gold”, he said. So I went to him, “Hey! Tell me the truth. Did you find it out?” - “Sir, these rishis have written - do you know why they have written?” Today, in this world there are fellows who are after money. This fellow is a danger to society. So this fellow will spend his lifetime going to the jungles. 

25                              How is that herb? It seems you should take a herb from Kolli hills and come to Kalakkad hills; the one from Kalakkad must go to Yercaud hills it seems. And from there he must throw a stone - calling distance. That measure is not known. This fellow tries and tries to take stones and throw but can’t find out. So I asked him: “Why?” - “This fellow the whole day he will roam searching and searching for gold and just die. He won't be a problem to the earth, and for that only we have written.” Some people say, “They have found out sir!” - “Okay bring it, rub and make as gold!”- “That we can make, sir!” But there is none that has made it! ‘Hey! Did you see the spirits?’ There may be big, big stories. ‘When I went to the graveyard, oh, there a spirit came to beat.’ - “Did you see that?” - “We hear what is being said.” That is, this is also a story like that. 

26                              So this fellow is asking eternal life for this purpose. He went away very sorrowfully. How did he leave, it seems? Why? How will a poor man go sorrowfully? This fellow is a rich man, he goes sorrowfully, because he was going to die. 

27                              Then second stage of this drama. This is a drama. This is the first scene. That scene is over. So this fellow goes and he builds big, big things. And he bought a vineyard. He is getting lot of money. And he says, ‘O Soul! Eat and drink and be filled.’ (Luke 12:19) What does this man say? ‘He didn’t give me eternal life. But now soul, I have enough money for you. Eat - you can eat, drink and be merry. Soul! Be happy and be solaced.’ 

28                              You have no right on your soul. Any moment it can leave you. Now God did not tell you on what day you are going to die. If God tells you that you are going to die on December 30th, you will be very busy doing so many things. But God never tells your time. Anywhere you go, you can fall down and die. 

29                              Even we have Bro. Jothipackiam. In one meeting he died. So we all were shocked. And God healed him and right there brought him to life. So that was a great thing in our life. That is why we are coming for this meetings, because God has blessed us so much now. And we are not worried about big crowds. 

30                              When you are sowing a seed, that was sowing time. And when you are reaping, one will not sow at the time of reaping. Salvation is sowing. And now we are reaping. And we don’t take account how much we have harvested...... Will even a fool say that we got 30 bundles of hay?  ‘Iyyah! We got 20 bags of paddy!’ Now, what they say is, ‘Oh, we got 50 bundles of hay’. 

31                              Today what do the people say? Bible tells, ‘He will send His angels and first bind together the tares.’ He will send His angels. (Matthew 13:30) What do all those who were saved in my ministry bind now? They bind the tares. And one day they will come, but you will get caught. You will be caught inside that bundle. This fellow will escape - the one who bound will escape. What will he say? “Brother, I was saved in your ministry sir! I have come there. I have come finishing my work”, he will say. The one bound, you will be caught inside.  Now they will say, “We don’t know anything.” But one day, you will see that you are caught in that tares. 

32                              So what is the most important thing? God has spoken the word. We have five senses. These five senses cannot take you to heaven. That is why the Hindus say, ‘We have to control the five senses. This will take us to karma.’ So they want to overcome this karma. So this five senses will pull you down to the earth. But word of God will not pull you to earth. It will take you in glory. This cannot change. Man’s words and churches’ words and pastor’s words, all these things coming from their brain. But this did not come from any man’s brain. It goes through God’s power. So when you speak that word, we have to be very careful to obey that. 

33                              I am not coming to create another group. I am not coming to change from one religion to another religion. This is not a ministry to convert from one religion to another religion. It is to make you to correct thinking. You have to change your thinking. 

34                              My dear brothers and sisters, you are going on a wrong way! You may think that you have God. Is salvation everything? Is salvation the only thing? Is there only salvation? Does it require twenty, thirty years, to preach only salvation. It is easy to bring forth a child but the difficult thing is to bring it up. You can just give birth to many children, but to bring it up afterwards is the difficult thing. So today, everybody talks about salvation, miracles. 

35                              And today, nobody is bold enough to pray for sick people individually. Then you can find out who is having power. If touched, that same devil will strike the person who touched. But what trick are they using today? ‘Oh, you are all healed, you can go home.’ They will go back with the disease, but the name will be ‘a great servant of god’. All these come to the Ashram saying, ‘Ayyah we prayed there and prayed  here’. Then it goes there. 

36                              And today, we find so many things. Bible tells in Thessalonians, ‘Because they concealed the truth in unrighteousness, God will send among them a strong delusion!’ (2 Thessalonians 2:11)

Oh, church of God, you don’t realize that a strong delusion is already in the churches. And that is not

God. But one day, strife and tribulation, then you will know. (Side change)

37                              .....The rich man built big, big buildings. And the Lord said, ‘Your soul is required of thee.’  (Luke 12:20) Your soul will be required of thee today. That’s the second stage. 

38                              The third! Lazarus - the scene that comes before that. Lazarus is there. He is outside. There he has got dogs. Dog gets bread; but this fellow Lazarus gets none. Only the dogs are licking his sores. Okay, this dog at least after getting bread let it refrain from licking the sores. But it licks his sores and eats that bread also. So he is there. This fellow is looking there. Bread keeps falling from the table but it doesn’t come to his mouth. He is a poor fellow. And then, that rich fellow is having a big party. Every rich people come. Nobody is taking care of this fellow. 

39                              One day Lazarus died. Who carries Lazarus' soul? Angels are going. This rich man died. A big choir. What is the song? ‘Jerusalem my temple, the house I desired.’  Is he proceeding to Jerusalem? This fool won’t go to Jerusalem. No matter with any number of choir it is sung, he goes below only and will never go up.  But for us a satisfaction: ‘Good choir! We had a nice funeral service. Oh, that funeral service was good.’ But Lazarus had no funeral service. After packing in a mat, it is put in a pit. But his soul is going with the angels. That scene is over.

40                              Fourth scene. This gentleman is directly in hell! It is very hot there it seems. Where is it very hot it seems? There is no way to find water there. Then he sees Abraham. ‘Abraham! When I was in the world, I enjoyed happiness. But now I don’t have a drop of water. Send this Lazarus and pour some water in the mouth - please put a drop!’ While here, the prayer is: ‘Beat him Lord, kick him Lord.’ What is the prayer there? “Please bring water and put a drop sir!” 

41                              Then what he says? Abraham says: ‘You enjoyed the earth, but....’ Then he got the feelings for his brothers - “Iyyoh!” Where should the burden for souls come? It should come when you are alive! To this gentleman it comes after he dies. “I have brothers. Iyyoh, so that they won’t come to this place, send an angel - send somebody!” Then he says, “They have Moses and the prophets. If they don’t believe them, they will never believe even if you send a man from heaven.” That’s a very important thing. We have the Moses and the prophets and the Bible and Jesus. If you don’t believe what they say, even a vision comes, even somebody says, ‘You! The one wearing a red blouse! You! The one with stomach pain!....’ Is this discernment? 

42                              Discernment was there for Branham. That man was a prophet. I know him. When I was in Florida, God spoke to me in the air. I heard a voice from the air. “My prophet, he is waiting for you, you must go and meet him!” Then I was asking the voice, “I don’t know his address.” The address comes from the air above! Then I said, “I have no money to go.” - “There’s a telephone bell coming, they will go to a meeting. They will call you for a meeting and they will give you the money to go.” So I was there. I went to Chicago. He told me, “Go to Chicago, there will be people waiting to go to see him.” 

43                              So I went in the morning and sat in a bench. There were three people going in the car to see Bro. Branham. At that time I said, “Can I come with you?” - “We don’t take black people.” ‘God told me like this, and this fellow calls me a black man!’ Immediately that fellow’s neck went like this. He was shouting ‘Iyyoh, Iyyoh, Iyyoh’. I was sitting on a stone. Big doctors came. Two hours treatment. The fellow is wailing ‘Iyyoh, Iyyoh, Iyyoh’. The wife looked from there and said, “It is fearsome for me to look at the man who is sitting here. He just keeps looking at our house. Would he have come here with a message from God?” Then the husband said, “We don’t need a black man!” Then after two hours, the wife came: “Will you please come into the room?” - “Why?” - “I want you to pray for my husband.” - ‘Come on! Have you come around?’ - “I will come. He will be all right. Will you promise to take me to Bro. Branham?” - “Okay.” Right on touching the neck became alright. Immediately the three came, “You have to be in our car for one hour. We divided the time.”

44                              So we went to see him. Branham was not there. There God speaks to him, “My man is coming. Immediately go there to meet him!” He told him my name also. And the Western people, they didn’t want me to see him. Thousand people are there, waiting for one month. He is asking me to stand at the end as the thousand and one man. 

45                              Then I told God, “If you brought me here, He should call me. He should not call me as ‘black shirted man or red shirted man’. There are many such in India: ‘Oh, the woman wearing a red saree! Oh! Woman with stomach pain!’ Don’t all women have stomach pain? Now, in our house did not many have stomach pain? So, that is big ministry for India. You are all going to learn a real lesson. All these people will learn a very good lesson very soon. Why? This is the delusion. Because you don’t have truth. Did Jesus die on the cross for this blouse and saree alone? Has not the church understanding? If my Lord had died for that, that Lord is not necessary for me. Does He not know that you have stomach pain? Does not the stomach pain leave if you come right? This is a big ministry? No! This is delusion! You don’t know what spirit that is! Because when a man leaves the word of God, immediately he gets the possession. All the people of God, tremble at the word of God and come back to God’s word! Otherwise you will be under a trouble! 

46                              Adam, Eve. People say, “It’s the serpent seed.” That’s nothing to do with the serpent seed. Because when you don’t do what God says, immediately you will get a possession. So we have to search our hearts and see whether we are having any possession. Every - even Christians are attacked. Very soon everybody will be possessed, unless you are hiding under God. The blood is the only remedy for you. 

47                              And so what happens? God told Adam, “Do not eat of that fruit; for in the day that you eat, you will surely die.” That was a command of God. It was the command from the great King. God didn’t tell his wife. He tells to her adding. He tells her, “He said even not to touch it.” (Genesis 3:3) He added one more thing. Instead of saying, ‘You should not eat of it’, he went to his wife and said: ‘He said not even to touch it.’ Then what did she do? She just goes and touches it. On touching, she eats the fruit. It was good for food and pleasant to the eyes.’ (Genesis 3:6) What? Was the serpent good for food? How can she eat the serpent? And that, many people say, that she went alone into the garden. With the husband she was there. This story happens when both were there only! Show from the Bible, whether she went alone. Then she ate the apple. As she ate it, she disobeyed God’s word. She was possessed. Then she gives to the husband. 

48                              According to the husband, he is between two things. He wants his wife, he wanted God also. If he didn’t support his wife, she will also perish. He can never get his wife back. So voluntarily he ate it. So immediately they run away from God. “Adam where art thou?” He had got another spirit and he runs. God comes running after him. “Adam! What did you do?” - “My wife gave.” - “Eve! What did you do?” - “Oh, the serpent deceived me.” Then, nobody takes the responsibility. Today you have to confess your sins directly, not evade the question. You are responsible for what you do. If you confess it, the blood cleanses it. 

49                              Now see, the sacrifice. This is a sacrifice. This is Isaac. Isaac is here. (Bro. Lawrie shows in actions.) He had to die. God gives him a command: ‘Kill your son.” So he had to obey God’s word. Then God comes as a lamb. This ram dies. Because this ram died, Isaac comes to life again. 

50                              So here there is a great secret. Will any one be roaming carrying the knife that killed the ram? Which gives us salvation? This blood. Today, suppose a man wants to drive a devil out, (Bro. Lawrie shows some actions) - like the disease of palsy. No devil will leave for this kind of rubbing. You may hang a thousand crosses, this devil won’t be afraid of that. It will be afraid only of this blood. Today, we are taking the wrong thing. Suppose somebody murders my brother, I will cry for my brother. If I take the knife and frame it, ‘Oh the knife that killed my brother!’ Will I be crying, keeping that? 

51                              Today we are taking the cross which is our enemy. This cross should be in the hands of murderers. What should be in our hands? The Lamb slain! Today we get saved: “Oh! I am saved!” Very good. I also was saved in 1943. I was jumping for some days: ‘Hallelujah! Praise the Lord.’ I felt like I was in heaven. Then I made a somersault. 

52                              Today people say, ‘We are saved, we don’t sin any more.’ I am knocking at your conscience and asking, have anyone of you been without sinning after being saved? There is another thing in that, ‘It's a mistake’, it seems! If a Hindu does it, it is a sin it seems and if he does it, it is only a mistake it seems. ‘Its a mistake.’ It is not a mistake. That also is poison and this also is poison.

53                              But what do the Christians say? ‘I am saved. Though I fall I will get up, though I fall I

will rise, though I fall a thousand times I will rise.’ He also, even if he falls ten thousand times, he will also get up. What do you say? ‘I don’t sin.’ I have to see and meet such a person today. I have revelations about them. God has given me power to reveal the wrongs that they do. I don’t know the tricks of this red saree, this saree and all. I have the capacity to find out what sin the person has, who says he hasn't done any sins. But what happens? We are taking the wrong emphasis on a wrong thing. 

54                              The blood - why the blood is important? My sin goes there, that holiness comes here. All my weakness goes there. If this ram itself comes back to life, what is your hope? You also have to die and that also died. Today, that is the secret. 

55                              The Bible clearly tells that God reveals things not altogether immediately. God, through the Spirit, for this age is revealing little by little. Daniel did not get all the revelation. Apostle John did not get all the revelation. And Paul did not get all the revelation. But they all got some portion of it. But this is the end of time. The whole world is preparing for another war. How to escape from this war? How to escape death? That is the battle today. 

56                              Russia is inventing one thing, America is inventing one thing. So there is no peace now. Any moment anything can happen. But at this time, what is our hope and your hope. Are we also going to perish? Or if you are perishing, why do you want God now? If God is not able to save us in this generation, what is the use of believing in that God? Is saying green saree, red saree, going to save you? This is to deceive you. This is a deception to put you in that hell. This is the thing which is binding the tares. But true people of God, this is the time for you to read the Bible, as you never read before! 

57                              So when I went they took me in the car. Then Branham came. They said, “We can’t see Bro. Lawrie, he is a black man.” He shouted from there, “Brother Lawrie, I want to speak to you.” Everybody was shocked. “I came here flying only to see you. I heard the voice of God telling me, that I should to meet you.” He took me to the room and closed the room and told the secrets of God. And he told me what is going to happen in my life. And that’s the prophet. Everybody, Dick, Tom and Harry, cannot be a prophet. Don’t think they are prophets. People who are not on God’s word, they are false prophets. So you have to be very careful for that. Just like the gold, you have to find out rubbing on a stone. Rub everybody on the stone of God. Rub me also. If I am true to God’s word, then believe me. 

58                              So when he told me like this, and they were shocked: “Why he came?” Then he took a photograph, and I left him. I never got any money from him. But recently many people came, their groups people came, they wanted to give me lot of money. I refused. Others are getting now. What does that fellow say? ‘Bro. Lawrie has plundered.’ No! Brother, we can’t sell the truth! 

59                              If you read the Bible - in these eight days, I want to give you some truth. That will prepare you for glory - coming glory. It is not my knowledge. On moon landing day, the Spirit of Truth entered me. Then He revealed the truth. And that is why, this message is a new message. Don’t go on in your old track. You think well and listen closely. He that hath got ears let him ear. He that hath got eyes can see. Because others can’t understand. You have to be humble, you must be without any pride; you musn’t be after this five senses, then God will bless you. What is the real healing from God? Not only for healing, Jesus died not only for your healing. In that case, we have got better doctors also. 

60                              One day when I was going for a meeting, I was working in Vellore hospital. My son Evu was sick. So I took there to the Apostolic Faith church. About forty pastors would have prayed for him. The fever is very high. So I told, “I know a medicine, if I give, it will be healed in no time.” So I went and bought some Soda-bicarbonate, - sulphurthycin and gave it, immediately it was healed. Because I was working in a hospital, so I know what medicine to give. So the pastor said, “Praise God your son is healed.” - “No sir, he was healed because of taking medicine.” - “You unbeliever!” - “What sir, you are saying ‘you unbeliever?’, otherwise my son would have died! For that do you want to let him die?” - “You have no faith.” - “Alright, if you had the faith my son would have been healed. Why do you put the blame on me?” 

61                              Today, healing in Jesus’ time was different. If one was having leprosy, leprosy will leave immediately. When he told the man with a withered hand to stretch it, it straightened instantly! The healings that take place now, the one with a withered hand goes just as he was. So, many, there are false things also going on. But Paul’s time, Peter’s time, the healing was so superb - perfect soundness. But today, the healings are only stomach ache and head aches. But serious cases go back the same way. What’s the matter? It is not seeing and believing. 

62                              God told that fellow, ‘Stretch thy hand.’ (Matthew 12:13) He didn’t say as to which hand he should stretch. ‘Stretch your hand.’ Then, one hand is withered. He could have stretched the good hand! He had faith and what did he do? He stretched that hand, and it became like the other hand. Why don’t you tell anyone to touch like that today? When he says stretch your hand, let him stretch the hand and let anyone’s withered hand become normal! Because, there is no power like that. We have lost the power. Why? 

63                              In this Bible, at the end time, God has to show the creative power. That is why we came here today. In this short time, every day message is important. All our preachers are very experienced preachers. Rev. Jothipackiam, Bro. Arulanandham, they were all in Ashram for many years. So now they come boldly to tell you their experiences. So we have come to tell you that. 

64                              Now, God’s word is powerful. Now Indira Gandhi, she is not one little lady. He’ll say,

‘Who? This Indira Gandhi?’ She is the voice of the whole India. Who is Indira Gandhi? The voice of India! What is Russian man? He is the voice of Russia. What is Reagan? He is the voice of America with all the bombs. That you have to understand. Who is Jesus? The voice of God - creative power. It is not a human voice; it is not your pastor’s voice; it is not Bishop’s voice; it is the voice of our Creator. What is the matter with that? If you believe that, it will produce creation. 

65                              Today, without believing God’s word, how can creative power act in you? It can’t happen. In the first place you disbelieve God, how can God create? Now see Moses. 

66                              Now see Sarah. Sarah was very old. Sarah was ninety, Abraham was hundred. All her periods had stopped. And God told Abraham, “I will give you a child.” His five senses: ‘You have no hope, you fellow!’ Some people have no hope like that. ‘Iyyoh! Doctor has told that I will never have a child!’ “Doctor will say, but you will have child.” If you believe that way, that Sarah, her womb was dried up. It ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women, and she had no hope. Then God says, He believed that. That was counted as righteousness. 

67                              Righteousness is not your brinjal righteousness. ‘I won’t smoke beedi, I won’t smoke cigarette.’ Smoke beedi or cigarette well. God will not push you away because of that! ‘Oh, don’t smoke beedi, don’t smoke cigarette, don’t use betel nuts or betel leaves.’ Is this a righteousness? This is not righteousness, these are your habits. He wants you to leave those habits, that’s all. Even that He doesn’t say! ‘Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man!’ (Matthew 15:11) I am not telling that. Go and fight with Him! He has told that anything that goeth into the mouth will not defile you.  68 All what is coming from inside you will pollute you. Jealousy - all these things will ruin you. But what does the world say? ‘After I was saved.....’ How they say that?  ‘After I was saved, I don't go to cinemas, I don't drink, I don't watch girls.’ Hey! That which is within you will not be quiet! 

69                One day we were going on this road only. Then a big Pentecostal man, he won’t open his eyes when he preaches. ‘Lord, praise be to thy holy name!’ (Bro. Lawrie imitates the accenting.) Then I thought that he may be a great saint, because he doesn’t even open his eyes. Whereas our eyes are never calm but directs us to look this way and that. But this man doesn’t even look. In that case it must be something special. He is greatly victorious! Then, myself and another person said, ‘Come let us go to the Moore market.’ As we went, there was a pretty girl coming from that side. He just stands there. He got shocked on seeing that. We were not shocked. He was so shocked on seeing that beauty, that he was having shortness of breath. Then we were just walking on. That girl is going on that side and he is looking there. (Actions like how the pastor, to look at the girl, wanted to make it casual and so was turning to that side as if he wanted to spit, are shown by Bro. Lawrie.) I caught the neck from behind. “You close your eyes there, then why do you turn here?” - “No, I just looked that the girl was a bit beautiful.” - “Then are you not also looking?” - “That, I don’t look in the meetings but outside I gaze.” Only such kind of righteousness is with our Christians now. 

70                Ask any fellow! “Now I have become a very good person. I don't beat my husband; I don’t beat my wife.” The next one: “I go regularly to church.” Will you go to heaven just because you go to church regularly? In that case you can become a car by going and coming out of a car shed! 

71                Bible tells, God doesn’t dwell in temples built by man. Today Christ is on the road! (Cassette change)

72                .....Behold the righteousness of God! The holiness of this lamb comes to you. All your bad character goes there. Then Paul says, ‘I have received the righteousness of God.’ That means, righteousness of God is 100% holy. Do you know what God tells about your righteousness? Filthy rags! (Isaiah 64:6) Paul is telling this indirectly hiding it. What does He say in the Old testament? This is a woman’s menses cloth. Why? Your righteousness is such a filthy rag. But only that you take and fly it as a flag! That will never take you to glory. You will never go in glory with this holiness. This holiness of Jesus only can take you! Not this cross. All this has to be in the hand of murderers! Wherever this is, it will be the house of murderers. This is the Person whom we have to love - My Jesus! 

73                ‘Oh it seems that Bro. Lawrie is calling himself as Christ?’ I worship one God -  Jesus. Today I worship only that God, but with a greater power, with a greater revelation. That great God who created the heaven and the earth, it's a blessing to live in Him! That is why, the whole world may be against us, but God can never be against you, if you have this righteousness. If you have this righteousness, you will have the marks of Jesus in you. 

74                What does Paul say? “From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.” (Galatians 6:17) Have you got that righteousness? 

75                Brother and sister, as a brother I am telling you. You may think I am telling blasphemy. But I will tell you, the righteousness of Jesus Christ, that’s the only thing will take you to glory! That is not told by people today. Everybody telling about their own righteousness. That is filthy rags. God will destroy the people. But if you have this blood, God can never destroy you! 

76                So this Abraham, believed God. Sarah became a young girl. What about her? King Abimelech got love over this ninety year old lady. Why? Abraham’s believing made Sarah young. Like that, you want to become young? Believe God’s word you will become young. I am sixty four years old. Tell any man to shout like me today!  Why? I don’t know to play on an instrument, but know to shout.  Because the same power God has given us is still there. But what I am trying to tell you is, believe God’s word. 

77                Moses - God told Moses, there’s a Red sea there, there is a mountain, here is Pharaoh’s army. He is the leader, he is worried. “Lord! What shall I do?” - “Hey! Beat the red sea man! Stretch your rod!” What does he do? “How is it sir? How will the sea part if I stretch?” He didn’t use this brain. What does he do? He stretches. The sea divides in two. Won’t that power that parted the sea, heal you? Today, that power is available in God’s word. Take the power of God! So many things in the Bible. Believing God’s word brings you blessings. Today, in our ministry, you will get new limbs. Not the old one. 

78                That day we prayed for a man. His thigh was broken. He was of the Thevar community. Then, the Doctor said he must pay five thousand rupees for this operation and setting the bone. This

X-ray, the bone is broken. So his wife, somebody told, I think Bro. Benjamin’s wife, ‘Call brother Lawrie and get prayed.’ So she came running, ‘Ayyah, you should pray.’  So I took the limb, ‘Lord, You can join this.’ On praying it joined ‘tak’ and immediately he got up and sat. As he was going like that, everyone thought that a spirit was going. Immediately the doctor came, “You sit down, your leg is broken man!” - “No sir!”  So he took him to the x-ray carrying him. There the bone and all was joined. So the doctor lost five thousand Rupees. Then, what that man said was, ‘Ayyah, I will go to my house and along with everyone in my village, I am going to go by walk to that Ashram and see brother Lawrie.’ 

79                So today, the ministry is such that you don’t have shout or do anything, in your place God can heal you. But come back to God’s word. What is that? Read the Bible and believe that is 100% true. It will be difficult for you. But, if God has promised He will do it. That is why, we are living for this forty years, trusting God. We are not afraid of any oppression, any opposition. But we are afraid of God’s word. Come back to God’s word! Come back to God’s word! God will heal you, God will bless you, God will fill you with the Holy Spirit! Let us pray. 

80                Loving Saviour, I come to Thee this night. Lord, there are so many people who have been having so many problems in their lives. We thank You, because You have revealed Your mighty Name. And You said, in that Name you asking anything, I will give you. I command blessings for these people, Lord. Fill them with the Spirit of God. Lord, give them all new things, Lord. Lord, let it not be just a partial healing. If You have sent Thy servant Lord, Lord prove my word, Lord. There are so many counterfeits in this country, but You sent me specially. So prove that You have sent me Lord, in these meetings. Heal the people Lord! Fill them with the Spirit of God! Heal them Lord. Thank You Jesus. Amen.  

-- Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie

November 27, 1983

Madras - Periyar Thidal

 

1   Dosai, idli - Indian dishes made from rice

2   Lingam - An image or a material object of worship, signifying the male and female reproductive organs as the beginning of life and worshipped by some religious groups. 

3   Rudratcha - The nuts of the Eloeocarpus ganitrus, worn as beads by religious mendicants. 4 Kayakalpam – Elixir

5 Rishis – Sages

BRING BOTH THE GOOD AND THE BAD

1                                  Praise be to the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. You heard a very powerful message. In these last days we have to understand many things. You know, people think that in this life, just to neglect the Bible and live the Christian life - they think it's possible. As a brother I want to warn you, Christian life is 'married to the word'. If you are not with the word of God, you are not a Christian. Today I don't belong to Christianity, as a religion. But I love the Lord Jesus more than anybody in this world. 

2                                  Today people say - every day the question arises. I am a man of controversies. One man tells I became a Muslim. Another man tells, Brother Lawrie became a Hindu. Another man tells, He is a Christian. Another man says, He is a godless man, and he is an anti-Christ. And you know, what's the cause of these? Why should they say like this? Not only that: Why they have to tell all kinds of lies, being a Christian? Are they really Christians? I was thinking once, they were all Christians. 

3                                  But today I boldly tell the whole world, if anybody do not line with the word of God, he is not a Christian. They are the false people. That's why Jesus said, “Beware of the wolf in sheep's clothing.” There are many wolves in our midst with the sheep's skin. So how can you escape these wolves? We have to wear the wolf's skin, then only we can escape. Otherwise they will eat us. 

4                                  Today, if I go to a home and steal ten rupees, the whole town will say, “So and so is a thief”. Suppose there is a cycle thief: He steals a cycle; they come to catch him, he will say, the thief is going in-front of him. He also will shout: ‘Thief, thief’. So the people will omit him and they all follow somebody else as a thief. 

5                                  So today you may be a godless man, you may be having a touch of God in your life, you may have a board as a Christian, may be a good man, you may be a Sunday school teacher, you may be conducting some prayer groups, you may be admitted in a Christian school, so many things; but you may not be a Christian in that case even. 

6                                  My wife read the Bible fourteen times. And at the time of marriage she was not saved. She told me, “I have read the Bible fourteen times, and you call me an unbeliever?” - “Yes, you are a very bad unbeliever.” She started fighting: “No, no, no, I don't believe that.” But when the Lord touched her life, she followed me like a lamb. Today she stood for so many things in my life. When the people started talking bad about me, another woman would have left me long ago. But she stood even today. Why? She has got the touch of God in her life. 

7                                  Today, a man who has the Christian board, has no back bone. You go to any place, you tell something from the Bible, the fellow is running. If I tell some things to you not from the Bible, then you call me ‘anti-Christ’. 

8                                  Today you must understand, that in every age God raised a man. He doesn't raise a group or some church. From the beginning, God always chose a man. But what do the Christians say? ‘God raises a  group.’ God never raises a fallen denomination. There are many denominations today. But they'll never get up. And God cannot operate in that. 

9                                  Today we must think about God. Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:48) God who is giving sunlight, He is not giving sunlight for a Christian only; it is not for the Americans only; it is not for the Hindus only; it is not for the Muslims only; not for the drunkards only or atheists only. Everybody enjoy the glory of God. Hallelujah!! I like that. 

10                              I look up at the sun, it lays no condition. “If you don’t come to our church, you won’t get permission.” That, sunlight won't say. And it's a nature of God. Whatever God gave you, God gave you free. But man puts money for that. 

11                              Today many people think about that. “What about Lawrie? How many buildings he has built? How many cars he has got? How many houses he owns?” I don't have any house of my own. I don't have any property for my own. My wife and children, they have no money to rely on. Forty years we are in this ministry. “Why can't Brother Lawrie earn?” - Can’t earn brother! Why? Unless you join some foreign denomination, you cannot put a big bungalow. 

12                              Today they come and tell me, “Brother Lawrie, see that preacher, he is having twenty cows - all Jersey cows.” And what about the other man? “He is putting a big tower. He wanted to big a Xerox company. Why don't you subscribe?” And every letter, every publication, it is all begging, begging, begging! Does God do that? Will God be in any of these things? 

13                              Now today, if a beggar takes a shirt away, they'll go and beat him. You have to beat these fellows - those who beg a respectable begging! And then we say, “That is God's work.” 

14                              See the rain, everybody gets the rain - Hallelujah! You go and get in enjoying the rain. He doesn't say, “Are you saved?” No question. It pours on everybody. Not only that: water - everybody gets it. Air, you don't say, “Are you a Hindu? You don't have air.” Everybody free to breathe in his own way. ”I will close only one nose and breathe” - you can do that. You can breathe in two nose. “No, I will breathe only by the left side.” - it's free. You want salt. It is free. 

15                              You get everything from God free. But when man gives it, tube-light you have to pay. Oxygen cylinder you have to pay. In the shop you buy salt for money. Everywhere money. So what is this nature of God? Salvation is also free. Redemption is free. In two thousand years ago, the Lord sowed the seed. Now He has to reap it. 

16                              The people say today: “He will come and we will meet in the air.” But you know, if you have everything comfortable in this earth, you will say anything you like. “He will come, we will fly away.” When you are taking the seed and when you winnow it, the chaff flies. That is flying! All chaff will fly. Seed won’t fly. To take that home, the owner will come. He won't go and take all the hay and put it inside the house. It will be outside. But the grain, the owner will be near the grain. Today, if you are a grain, God will watch you my friend, so that you are a seed. Otherwise you are not a seed. 

17                              This Job had many children. All children died on one day. One child dies today, or one lady of eighty years die today - “Iyyoh! My! She has died!” (Bro. Lawrie shows actions like crying.) Job had eight children lost on one day. Can you bear? Can you bear it my friend? He was a rich man in the East. He is not a Westerner. He was an Easterner. And he lost all his animals. All the property went on one day. And his wife said, “Ah, why are you alive? Curse God and die.” And then he was scratching. And all his flesh was burnt. He did not sin by his mouth. “God gave, God took it away, praise be to the name of God.” (Job 1:21) 

18                              His friends tried to tell karma theory. “You must have sinned, that's why you got this.” But, in that difficult time, one voice came, “When He has tried me - when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold.” (Job 23:10)

19                              My dear friends, today there is a religion not having any difficulty. Many preachers today, all the present day big preachers, they have become very rich by preaching. And they think they will fly. I am going to see them fly! Why? They are against God. They are never true to God's word. But they are flying? 

20                              But Job after such a difficulty, he comes and tells, “My Redeemer liveth”. That is the revelation he got. For that he had to pay such a heavy price. For you, you want that revelation being in a five storey building! That revelation will never come to you! Come down from your height! 

21                              This revelation which Job got, you have to pay a heavy price! And Job said: “My Redeemer liveth. He will stand on this earth on the last day! Will stand upon the earth!!” (Job 19:23-27) That is what he said. I believe that man. He is a man of this East. “He will stand upon the earth. Not another eyes, my own eyes will see Him, after worms eat my body, in my own flesh, I will see my God in this earth. With this love, I am always consumed. I want to print this in the stones. I want to print this in books.” This message he wanted. 

22                              The ones now, they are beggars, racketeers. There is no food for the ones in the village, what are these fellows doing? They say, “Give us money, give us money.” You mean to say, he will get a revelation? And God said: “All the revelations were not given to everybody. It comes to one man at every age.” I didn't believe that first. 

23                              I travelled round the world seven times. I met the biggest people, I stayed with them - Dr. Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, Osborne, everybody. There is no preacher left my hands. And nobody will help you unless you join them. 

24                              Today we think, that because you are a Christian they will help you. We are Indians and we have to think about our country also. If they have patriotism, why can't we have? Today we think that because we are getting support from other countries, that we will get citizenship in Mecca, Rome we can get citizenship. Some people think they can get citizenship in London. Somebody think they can get citizenship in America. But because you join them you don't get citizenship. 

25                              You know, Ceylon Pentecostal Mission was in Ceylon. At that time I was in Ceylon. I know the whole story of Ceylon. Many Indians were there. Pastor Allwyn was staying in a....  “Brother they are trying to find a way to kill me. Save me. I have come to you for refuge.” So we gave him food. People wanted to kill him. So we said, “As long as we live we will protect you.” And we sent him to Ceylon. He was a Sinhalese. 

26                              Before that I was in Ceylon for 25 years. The Indians were there. Jaffna Tamils were there. The Sinhalese people are good people. They won't go against chivalry - against good works. That is Buddha's teachings. Many Indians went and had shops. The Jaffna Tamils chased them away. They became our enemies. They said, “We won't sleep till you get out of Ceylon.” Because I was an ‘All Ceylon’ footballer and ‘All Ceylon’ athlete, I told these Jaffna Tamils, “Please don't do that.

Later on you will be in trouble. Don't chase the Indians out.” - “Get away you fellow, we will get sleep only when you also leave.” 

27                              Then at that time, I came to India. You know, the present Prime Minister Premadasa, was an old football friend of mine. My wife and I went to Ceylon. One day two thousand Sinhalese came to kill us. I put my children inside the bed and I was standing out. So the people came with knives. I thought they are going to kill me. So I waited out. “You Tamil fellow, you Indian - ”  then he took the knife. He looked at me: Started crying - I said, “Why are you crying?” - “Are you so and so's son?” - “Yes.” - “Your father helped me a great deal. He brought us up. Without your father we will be starving and dying. Today I have taken the knife against his son.” Two thousand Sinhalese people, they came out, took my wife and children, they protected us, came to station - to Talaimannar and Dhanushkodi and sent us safely and went away. 

28                              And today, the trouble is - many troubles came. And today, we can't stand, you know. Today people are rubbing ‘Ceylon’ out of all the Pentecostal Mission. In Ceylon Pentecostal Mission, they are wiping out ‘Ceylon’. Why? If that ‘Ceylon’ cannot save you, how can that church save you? It is Jesus who can save you. 

29                              Today we are fighting for the name - IPC, CPC, this and all. These are different hotels. We don't go to one hotel and eat all our lives. It is our choice. You go to some hotel, if the food is bad, you go to another hotel. You go to a petrol bunk, put petrol and go to another petrol bunk and put petrol. But it is our life. 

30                              But you must understand, when there was an Isaiah, there cannot be another Isaiah. When there was Moses, there could not be another Moses. So God selects the people in every age and gives them a message. If they don't listen to the message, then the curse comes to them. That is the God's way. 

31                              So in these days, or from Jesus time, He gave certain things. So many secrets! Even the disciples did not know the whole truth. The disciples did not know what Paul knew. Because God kept the secrets to the end time. But He told parables to all His disciples. 

32                              Now see, if you turn to Mark fourth chapter! Read - ninth verse.

9               And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. 

-- ‘He that hath got ears to hear, let him hear’. Have you got ears my friend? Not this ear,

spiritual ear; let him hear. Have you got spiritual eyes? Let you see! 

33                              Then, 

10           And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. 

-- He told a parable. But they didn't understand. So the disciples asked Him, “Why do

you tell parables, why can't you tell straight?”

34                              Eleven: 

11           And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:  -- “Unto you it is given the mystery of kingdom of God.” 

35                              But unto them,....

but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:  -- ‘Unto them that are without!’ 

36                              So there are two things. It is no use thinking, ‘Within or without?’ There are some songs, ‘inside or outside.’ That is not the important thing. Both of you are on the outside only. But this is: Those that are without, in parables. Those that are without, He is telling parables. But those who are inside, He is telling plainly. So there is a certain thing which God also is afraid - for conversion of some people. God is afraid of some people getting converted. 

37                              Then, 

12           That seeing they may see, and not perceive;  -- They can see, but they can't understand. 

and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. 

38                              God is afraid of some people's sins to be forgiven. He himself is afraid, Sir! You being such a great sinner, He is so afraid that you might come in. They are these plunderers. Today, these racketeers must be caught. That's the wolves today, in sheep skin. So God says here - He is afraid that they will be converted even. Why? So He is giving in parables so that they can't understand. 

39                              Then He says - Thirteen! 

13           And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables? 

40                              He was telling the parable of the sower. “Do ye not understand this? Then how can you understand all parables? This is the key parable. If you don't understand this parable you can understand nothing.” 

41                              You know, unless the Spirit of God comes into you, you can never understand the Bible. You can read the Bible and quote the Bible, but you will never understand. You will be like my wife after reading fifteen times, she was not converted, and did not understand the Bible. 

42                              Today many people go to church like a gramophone plate. How? ‘At the time of Pontius Pilate: Suffered, nailed on the cross and died.’ The time of Pontius Pilate - he left long ago. He died and went to soil with soil. ‘At the time of Pontius Pilate’ - first of all see, how are you in your time! How are you in your time? 

43                              My dear friends, I am not telling in any vehemence. I am not telling anything in anger. If there are ten people who can understand my message, you will shake the whole world. So give me a chance. I am spending money, so that some will understand. And you must understand that this is open to all. It is not because the people are believing Jesus, if you believe in Jesus, you must follow Him fully. You mean to say, all these preachers are following God fully? It is to better their prospects. Everybody is comfortable. But God lead me in a hard way. I never sold the truth, but I bought it. So the truth which I have is bought truth.

44                              Today, if a foreigner comes, they are not worried about truth.  “How much will you give? How much can you give monthly?” - “I can give you five hundred Rupees.” “How much will you give?” - “Thousand.” - “I will join with you.” This is the thing of Christianity. 

45                              You go to America, no fellow will join you unless you join him. Every fellow who gets money is a fellow who is a slave of that denomination. But I am a free man. I love my country men. Whether you are a Muslim, whether you are a Hindu, whether you are Christian, believe that you are an Indian. What's the use of our fighting with each other? ‘Oh, I am a Hindu; I am a Muslim.’ Let us understand each other. How you can understand? 

46                              In a family there are many people. We understand each other. We go to a Muslim hotel and eat. We enjoy it and come. We go to Courtrallam falls, it belongs to the Hindus, they have the temple there. We go and get a good bath, put oil. Muslim also goes and takes a bath. Everybody wish and come. We do all these without becoming a Muslim or a Hindu. But when you talk about religion - “Hey! He is a Muslim; he is a Hindu; that fellow is a Christian.” Why? We fight like dogs. There is no God there. If God is there, you will love everybody. 

47                              Formerly I was a meat eater. Today I am a vegetarian. I found it's very healthy for me. That doesn't mean I became a Hindu. I have taken the best things from Hinduism. We have ‘yoga’ practise there. Why? Because we know that it gives us strength. We are not lazy people. We take good things from everything. 

48                              Our culture is good in India. We have to respect the culture of our country. Our ladies are wonderful people; you can't find like them in other countries. The moment they become Christians, they are worse than anybody. Then the waist line goes up. Till then they would be covering well. On becoming Christians, they show like this. The whole back is visible and every fellow can watch. “We are Christians.” You! A shameless community!! That is not what our culture said. So take the best of the culture. That is not Hinduism. That is our culture. You don't find that in other countries. 

49                              So today, in our country we have to live. Now Tamilians came running here. Why? This is their country. Should they think only now, after being beaten? Why didn’t you come before as a Tamilian? Because you wanted money. Then you got a beating. But when he came here: “Oh he is beating!” We chased the white man out. He chased us. We plundered him, white man plundered us. If his plundering us is wrong, our plundering him is also wrong. Let us live in our country nicely. 

50                              I am proud to be in India. I am free here. I went to Andhra. Some R.S.S.1 people came, “Hey, Who are you?” - “I am an Indian.” - “Shake hands!” - “What sir, you are asking me to shake hands?” - “You are saying that you are an Indian! Shake hands for that!”  Suppose I come with a tie and a collar, “Oh, I am coming from London” - Then go to London. 

51                              This is our country. We have to live happily. When you see a Muslim, why don't you talk to him as a man? I know lot of Muslims. When I go to Melappalayam, “Ayyah, how are you?” - “I am fine.” - “Come, shall we have a cup of coffee?” Does it mean that I have become a Muslim? I meet lot of Hindus - “Come, we will have something to eat.” That is a friendship. We are friendly with so many things. Why this fight comes? Because the outsider's influence is bringing fights. Money is the root of all these. When money comes, fighting comes. And very soon India also will face such a lot of difficulties. But we have come here to know more about God. 

52                              Two thousand years after Jesus, the Muslims say, “Jesus never died”. We say: “He died and rose again.” The Hindus can't understand that. They have the ‘karma theory’. We say: “Jesus died and rose again.” 

53                              And there was a question asked by Jesus. That question was never answered by anybody, even till now. Even in those days no answer was given. He looked at the people - in front of the.... When He was tried - “What do you think of Christ?” - “What do you think of Christ?” (Matthew 22:42-46) They said: “He is the Son of David.” That is all. “If that be so, how did David in the Spirit call Him 'My Lord'?” Everybody fled. How did David in the spirit call Him ‘My Lord?’ He is looking at his own son, calls him, 'Lord'! 

54                              So you must understand in the Bible, there is a difference between 'My Lord' and 'The Lord'. If you see the Bible: “The Lord said unto my Lord...” (Psalm 110:1) That ‘L’ will be in capital letter and ‘ord’ will be in small letters. The other 'Lord' is 'L-O-R-D' is capital. When you say 'My Lord', it will be 'M-y, 'L' - small 'o', small 'r', small 'd'. You can see your Bible. These two are not the same people. 

55                              There is only one God. That one God, is the One who should be worshipped. And today, I am not God. I worship God. But today this revelation will make you understand, what I am telling. 

56                              Many people do not know in what name Jesus was baptised. Even great Bible scholars do not know this. In which name was Jesus baptised in? In whose name did He take? Nobody knows. But the Bible says! (Acts 19:4) 

57                              And Jesus Christ, this question when He answered, everybody ran away. That question is not answered. When Jesus Christ died - John said, “Behold the Lamb of God.” Why should the lamb come?

58                              In a sacrifice, the sacrifice comes for a sinner. Somebody has to die - it has to die for somebody. There must be the priest. This blood will have to be taken to the Holy of Holies. Then God will forgive his sins. If this is the Lamb of God, what is the fun of telling, ‘Any sacrifice will not raise again’. (Leviticus 6:8-11) Sacrifice will not rise. It has to become ash. That is the meaning of sacrifice. 

59                              So Jesus Christ, if He was a sacrifice, you can't see that sacrifice again. Jesus said: “If a wheat remains alone, it will not give benefit. But if it dies, it will bring lot of seeds.” (John 12:24) Jesus the seed, when It went into the ground, It died. And through that power many ‘christs’ are coming. So I have come here not to make you a Christian, but to make you understand you are a

‘christ’. We are all 'christs'. Because in Jesus Christ we all get that power to become like Him. But Bible says - Jesus said: “You will not see Me again.” (John 16:10) 

60                              What is the church saying today? ‘Oh! We are going to see!’ Show it from the Bible, whether you will see Jesus again. Today, what is the gospel today? Who knows the Gospel?  61 Take John 16: - John 16:7 

7               Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 

8               And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 

62                              Three things the Holy Ghost will tell. He will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment. This is the gospel today. Are you preaching that gospel today? Are you hearing that gospel today? No! That is a false gospel. 

63                              Today what's the gospel? “Be a good boy; go to church; give your tithes; help the poor; don't go to cinema; don't take beeda2; don't drink...” That is not the gospel. That is the social life. 

64                              Now, what is told? Ninth verse. 

          9   Of sin, because they believe not on me; 

-- If you don't believe on Jesus, you are in sin. Because that Lamb should take away your

sins. It is dying for you. His goodness comes to you. That is the exchange. So, if you don't believe on Him, you are in sin. Do the preachers have boldness to tell that? 

65                              Secondly:

         10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 

-- ‘You don't see me any more’! If you are going to see Jesus again, you have no Righteousness of God. Righteousness of God! 

66                              Today many people have their self righteousness. After salvation, “I have become a good man.” I am asking everybody today, “After salvation only, you became a worse fellow.” Before that I was a good person. From the day that I was saved, I became a worse person. I am desirous of seeing very pure people. All are deceiving fellows! ‘Hallelujah, Praise the Lord...’ (Bro. Lawrie imitates their accenting.) These are all deceivers. Don’t be afraid of these. ‘Oh, praise the Lord.’ ‘Praise the Lord.’ “Brother! Have you come?” (Bro. Lawrie shows some actions and the congregation laughs.) This is not love, this is deception. This is like - “I'll kill you.” Don’t be deceived by these embraces and all. This is all only outward show. I also thought like that. 

67                              I was preaching in places - ‘Oh! Medicine using sinners!’ I thought that all these fellows will never take medicine, but on going to their home, his child will be studying nursing. He will be studying doctor's. If you won’t take medicine, why does your child goes for a doctor’s job? They will go into the kitchen - “Sister, please make some ginger coffee and give.” Ginger coffee is not a medicine it seems! “Give me some pills.” Only on going to the doctor it is medicine it seems, and if pills are taken at home it is not medicine it seems! We know all this, sir! We, on going to each place, trusting and trusting, then being deceived, today when our eyes have become clear, everyone is scared and say - ‘Hey! Anti-Christ has come!’ The one whose eyes have opened, has come. The eyes of the one whose eyes were closed have opened. So I will shout everywhere I go. Why? Righteousness of God is different. 

68                              Now Isaac - Isaac was living. God told: “Kill him.” So Abraham wanted to kill him. But he knows that the promise is that Isaac cannot die. So for this He gives a lamb. So the lamb died. He died for Isaac. Isaac was there, died in the lamb, and again came to life as Isaac. This is the salvation plan. That lamb did not come to life again. After Jesus died, nobody saw Jesus. Mary Magdalene! 

69                              What does Mark say? “He appeared in another form.” In Mark 16! They didn't see Jesus in the own face - in another form. Three days before, Jesus was seen to Mary Magdalene. After three days, seeing the Jesus standing there, she calls Him: ‘Gardener’. He says, “Mary.” - “Rabboni!” She didn’t find by the face, but by the voice from inside! 

70                              Today preachers say: “Mary saw Jesus!” Mary saw another form only. (John 20:14 -16) Then another man, they were going for a walk - the disciples! (Mark 16:12) Jesus goes along. Just three days earlier they saw Him. They can't recognize the person just beside them! Who is blind? The one standing there or He? Then, when breaking the bread, the eye opened. What is this? 

71                              Then, Peter left - “Come on fellows, let us go fishing.” (John 21:3-7) See Peter's consecration! He was following Jesus, but he hid the nets there. Why? “In case I fail, I can go back to my fishing again.” This is the false consecration. So he went to catch fish. Whole night he was catching, he couldn't get one fish. He was very hungry. Then Jesus was standing there. They don’t recognize. “Children, did you get anything?” Then He said, “Put your net on the right side.” He caught fishes. What does he do immediately? “It is the Lord!” God's voice is powerful! He didn't find Him by His form - found by His voice! 

72                              The voice of God is powerful! Do you not hear the voice of God?! Don't you hear His voice speaking to you?! God's voice - when that voice came, it broke his heart! It says there, “Because Peter knew that it was the Lord”, it seems they dared not ask Him who He was. (John

21:12-13) You read that and understand for you. Knowing that it is the Lord, nobody dared to ask Him who He is. That is why John had great reve.... (Break in recording.) 

73                              Eternal life is different from everlasting life. If you see the Bible, everlasting life is different from eternal life. It will say: “Christ died and rose again.“ It will never say: “Jesus died.” (Romans 5:6) Always, “Christ died”. So from this word, you can understand great secrets. Paul knew that. 

74                              And today, in these days God said in the Bible: “When the Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you unto all truth.” (John 16:13) That means, many truths we don't know. We know only old truth. But every age God is giving new wine. 

75                              On Moon-landing day, a great thing happened in my life. Many people they fool about this. Moses had an experience. I had my own experience. At that time, in Moon-landing day, the Lord came down. And at that time I was Bro. Lawrie. Then the Bible opened out. And when the Bible opened, I couldn't hide it. So I started preaching. 

76                              Many people don't know - I was in Columbus, Ohio. At that time, forty rowdies came - all white and black. Each weighing about four hundred pounds, three hundred and fifty pounds. Then he said, “Hey, what are you preaching? You are a preacher? What are you preaching?” (Bro. Lawrie shows actions of that man smoking the cigarette and puffing on his face.) Then I thought, “Oh, what is this?” Then the lady came and told me, “Be careful about talking with these people. They are very dangerous people.” Then my hands and legs shook, because they were forty people, all very heavy. 

77                              Then they said, “Can you pray for us?” I prayed for all of them and they all fell down. It looked like a clothe merchant displaying his goods in front of him. I am only standing. Forty people fall down - all heavy people. Then after about half an hour, one by one opens the eyes. Power descends! “Praise the Lord.” Each one came and hugged me; and they crushed my bones. 

78                              Then I said, “How are you?” - “Brother, God has come into our lives.” Saying so, he is smoking. “What injustice is this? I had never seen a ministry like this in any place!” Then, each one has a brandy bottle. “Brother, you like brandy? Take man!” (Bro. Lawrie shows actions of saying: “I don't want.”) - “You don't take brandy? You gave us joy, and now you don't want to drink? Tomorrow you must baptize us.” I with fear was telling my wife: “These fellows are just puffing like this, we have never given baptism to anyone like this.” And you know what they said? “Tomorrow you must give us.” 

79                              So I went there.  Everyone with pork and brandy, cigarette tins, ask me: “You baptise us.” I said: “I won’t; this, if I go to my place they will attack me. Pentecostal people will take my life out.” Then I suddenly opened the Bible. He shows me that day one thing!

80                              There was a wedding and the king invited his friends. They gave false excuses. (Matthew 22:1-14) Then he told his servants: “You go to the highways and byways, bring the people in.” Then he said: “Lord, yet there is room.” - “Hey, you go and bring both the good and the bad.” ‘Oh, what? Is there place for the bad?’ Right! There is place for the drunkard also! 

81                              So I came, baptized them, then they threw the bottle away, threw the pigs away, and cigarette tins were gone. “Brother, we love you Mr. Lawrie.” - “I have not joined any denomination” and I said, “I have to come to America, so send me sponsorship.” All forty of them sent, saying: “You must come to my house and their house.” Here the fellows are scolding me as anti-Christ. What do they say there? “Leave off India and come off here.” 

82                              But what is the meaning of this? In these last days, for the wedding the good people have gone away with false excuses. They went off to earn. Then God brought the highways and byways. There is still place! All bad people come! I am inviting drunkards! I am inviting smokers! I am inviting bad people! I am inviting murderers! The way is open to you! Come on! Come on!! God calls you!! God calls you!! The way is open for you. Jesus will give you the garment of righteousness. Even though you are a bad fellow, only thing, you have to come. Don't worry, the garment is for you. Why? Because the good people did not want it. 

83                              So in these last days, the call is only for the bad. However wicked you are, God wants you. The wedding is for you. This message is for you. This revelation is for you. And in these days, it is open for you. That is why, we want to call all kinds of..... 

84                              I went to Andhra. Suddenly about two thousand people came. They all said - five minutes, they were all filled. They say, it seems - “Brother Lawrie's power has left long ago!” Each fellow thought that this was brinjal business. They think that is the power of God. No! God, once He gives the power, He will increase the power. 

85                              Come to Thessalonians! 2 Thessalonians second chapter. Now here, many Pentecostal people criticize this ministry. I am giving you an answer for that today. 

1               Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 

86                              Second verse:

2               That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 

3               Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 

87                              Now see, there are three comings - not two comings. Those days every Christian preached about three comings. Now they have swallowed the second coming, because he is afraid. Fear has caught hold of him. Second coming is a secret coming. First coming, He came to die for the Bride, to purchase the Bride. Second time, He comes to take the Bride. 

88                              Now suppose you go to a wedding, suppose a man is there, he doesn't say: “Hey wife! I am standing outside, come to the sky.” He won’t say - “I will stay in the road, you come to the road, we will run away.” He will come to the Bride's house. 

89                              That's why Jesus said, “Behold I stand at the door and knock, if any man opens the door, I will come into him and sup with him.” (Revelation 3:20) Your heart is not in air. It is down in the earth. The second coming is on the earth. That is about to finish now. Third coming is coming with the Bride. 

90                              Every time Lord sends the prophets. Before Jesus, John the Baptist came. Second coming, the prophet is come and gone - William Branham. Third coming, He is coming with glory - in the Father's glory. That is coming in the air. Secret coming is to take the Bride. For that there is a secret message. 

91                              If my message is not according to the Bible, I challenge anybody in the whole world, I will leave this ministry. This ministry will make the Bride go in glory! That is why so many oppositions today. If you believe this, it is according to the word of God.  

92                              Now see, 

4               Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 

5               Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 

6               And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 

7               For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 

93                              Then, the second coming, He will take the Bride away. Then the anti-Christ will be revealed. Anti-Christ doesn't come before the glorification. He won't be revealed. This coming - about the secret coming, he told, don't get upset. When it is taken away, then the wicked will come. 

94                              Eight:

8               And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 

-- That is third coming.

9               Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 

10           And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 

11           And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 

95                              Now see! Before the anti-Christ comes, the truth must be revealed by the Spirit of Truth. But what do the Christians do today? 

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 

-- “With all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received

not the love of the truth that they might be saved.” So they don't love the truth. They love their churches and everything. They didn't love the Bible; they never read the Bible. They only read some other books. 

96                              But this Bible, because they didn't love the truth, 

         11    And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 

-- “For this cause, God shall send them strong delusion.” He has sent the delusion. 

97                              Now these healing meetings and all that they conduct, is delusion. It is not healing meetings - strong delusion! 

that they should believe a lie: 

-- 'That they should believe a lie'. This delusion has come so that they should believe a

lie. A song and then a thing simply, just show as if crying. ‘Oh, congregation! Jesus died! (Bro.

Lawrie mimics their way of speech.) For a man, he won't cry even if the wife dies. The saying is ‘Don’t trust a man who cries.’

98                              Sometime back, we had a meeting of all pastors, in 1962. Then a preacher was there: “Lord, Oh, our dear!” (Bro. Lawrie mimics their crying.) “What is this sir?” - “This is crying and praying.” - “Why am I not getting cry?” - “Your heart has become stone.” This is not the way. This is ‘sending the strong delusion’, and all the people who are not on the truth and don't love the truth, they are deceived. So they should believe a lie. How? A gift is not like these - just public show! God heals. Even while listening to the message, you will be healed. 

12           That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 

-- That they all might be damned who believed not the truth. Read that! 

That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 

99                              But we are bound to give thanks to God always! Thirteen. You read!

13           But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 

-- Because of the belief of the truth and because God hath chosen you from the beginning

to salvation, we are bound to give thanks to God always. Two groups! We are chosen before the foundation of the world. There is only one God, no too many gods. 

100                          Today people think, Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three gods. Now see, 'Father' is a common name. Son is a common name. 'Holy Ghost' is common name. I am a father to my son, and I am a son to my father, and husband to my wife. If I go on the road - “Father, Son and Husband going”?! Just think a little and see how the devil has deceived the Christians! Even the devil will not leave in this. Not one devil can be driven in the name of Father, Son and Holy ghost. Try, will you! The name 'Jesus'! It is afraid of the name of Jesus. Not for Father, Son and Holy Ghost. 

101                          Suppose I am going on the road - ‘There goes Father, Son and Holy Ghost. - Father, Son and Husband is going.’ He will say, “Lawrie is going.” I will go and knock at the door. “Who is that?” - “Father, son and husband coming.” My wife will say, “Have you become mad? Tell the name! It seems ‘father, son and husband’?! Whose husband? I have one husband and his name is Lawrie. I won’t believe if you just say husband, tell the name!”

102                          Today, what do the people say? ‘To the Father, Son and to the Holy Ghost, Amen!’ In that song they are making mock gestures. “Amen, Amen, Ah - Ah - Ah- Amen!” Suppose now I stand before him and say: “Christopher - Christopher - Christopher - Christopher - Christopher”, what does it mean? You know, that is the way we are used. 

103                          If my son comes to me and says, “Daddy - daddy - daddy - daddy - daddy - daddy - daddy - daddy - amen”, (Bro. Lawrie imitates this just like how the church people say at the last - 'Amen'.) I'll ask, “Hey, what happened to you?” - “Is it not so, they sing in the church?” - “Hey, I won't give you even a paisa. You straightaway come and ask me saying, 'Daddy'; don't mock like this.” This will make you angry. Because I was fooled like that. But when the name of Jesus came,.... 

104                          Today I asked a fellow, “Who is your God? To whom do you pray?” - “I am praying to the Father, sometimes pray to the Son; I am praying to the Holy Ghost.” Then I asked a question: “By whom was Jesus conceived?” - “Holy Ghost.” “That is one Father. Then there is another Father for Him.” So Jesus has two Fathers! Is He having two fathers, unless Holy Ghost and Father is the same? “Bro. Lawrie is against the church.” He is against the untruth.

105                          This is truth. Let them come boldly and say this is wrong. They can only slander you. One of the communist's principle is: ‘If anybody is famous, you must tell bad things about him. Then he will be ineffective.’ I was a communist. I know what it is. So people will say: “Lawrie has left his wife.” See for yourself, she is there. She never left me. Ask her, whether any time I left her and went. People tell: “Oh, I saw him, he was wearing 'rudratcha'3.” Bring before me the fellow who saw that, and ask him where he saw that, he'll say, “Ba, ba.” Nobody can say that. 

106                          I am free to go to any place. But I am not free to leave Jesus Christ, because He is my life, and He has been leading me through that all these years. And today I am preparing a people for that glory. And many people are thinking they are Christians, but because they have money, they have got pride, they are blinded. Woe unto them! But the Hindus, Muslims, they are just coming in. So this is not converting from one religion to another religion. It is making to realize God in your lives! 

107                          So when I pray for you, two things happen. As I touch you, you will become unconscious. Immediately the devil leaves you. Then when I pray again, you are filled with the peace of God. Because the way is open for bad people also. If you think you are a bad man, come brother, God will give you peace. If you think you are a useless man, peace of God is for you! If you are a good man, you go and become a bad man, then only you can get the peace. Good people will never get the peace. It is self-righteousness! That is, 90% of the Christians are self-righteous. But I am preaching the righteousness of God. It comes by the blood of Jesus. When you take Jesus, His life comes to you. You are 100% pure. 

108                          I have gone to many places. One man, big fellow in India: “You are a very bad fellow.” I said, “I have got the righteousness of God.” - “What righteousness of God? I heard about you.” Five minutes, he became blind. Why? He is attacking the righteousness of God. A lamb has died. So you don't have sin any more. My righteousness is God's righteousness. It makes you completely overcome sin. But the present day Christians have self righteousness. Why you know? They believe on the Lamb raising again. If a lamb raises again, you have no righteousness of God. Because the Lamb died for us, I have life in that place! Hallelujah! Glory to God! Let us pray!  

--Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie

November 28, 1983

Madras - Periyar Thidal

 

1   R.S.S. - Rashtriya Swayam Sevak - A religious political party in India.

2   Beeda - Betel nuts and other ingredients packed inside a betel leaf usually taken after meals.  3 Rudratcha - The nuts of the Eloeocarpus ganitrus, worn as beads by religious mendicants.

LIFE THAT PLEASES GOD

1                                  Praise be to the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Many people have a doubt whether I believe in Jesus Christ at all. Today there are many Christians. They all say they believe in Jesus Christ. One man says he believes in Jesus Christ and earns money to live a good life in this world. That very same Jesus whom he worships, called me in 1953. 

2                                  When I was in Vellore hospital, I was dying and the doctor said I'll die tomorrow. I was between life and death. My wife was - at that time she was sure that I am going to die. My life left the body. I met the Lord. And He put His hands on my shoulder: “My Son, you are here already dead.” I said, “Then what about my family?” - “Now you can see on the earth, that your body is dead there.” Then only I realized I was dead. 

3                                  Then a vision came to me. At that time I saw all these churches are going for death, and it was driven by a devil. And He told, “My Son, I am sending you back to the earth. Whether they listen to you or not, tell them this truth. And then I'll judge them by your words at the end time.” I was shocked. “I'll take you around the world.” This was in 1953. And then I came; I thought I must work in the churches. 

4                                  Today my friends, you have to be true to what God has revealed to you. If you are not true to your light, further light will never come to you. Even if it was a small light, are you true to that light? I have gone through the different parts of..... (Break in recording.) 

5                                  If I follow and go after the people, nobody in India will be rich like me. Today some people go. They get some money. And they come to me - “Brother...” When they go to America they are lean. Then they come - their neck and head are one. And they'll say: “Brother, I went to America and came back. See my dollars. You know, you do not know how to live.” I was pitying them. But one thing I know: Nowadays this won't be revealed; at the end time we will know who is right and who is wrong. Because:

Now bad people go up and good people go down. We have no hope. But in Christ Jesus we have hope. That is why we have to comfort ourselves in that. Because I don't see a religion without difficulties. 

6                                  Today there is a religion called 'easy religion', 'comfortable religion'. And then they say, “If you have become poor, you can become rich by going to a religion.” Very easily they become rich, because there is always some foreign money to help you. But for me... They will say... They are getting tons of money, but they will say, “Bro. Lawrie is getting lot of money from America.” Alright, tell me what denomination I have joined. 

7                                  You go to the Reserve bank, your name and all - it's all in that list. You find out my name there! Because if I hide, the government can't hide. Because - I am a free man in this country. I am a true Indian preaching the true gospel of Jesus Christ. I have my centres in America; I have my centres in different countries. Foreigners are helping me, not with money. They are working for this ministry because this is truth. Because this is truth. This has been got from the Lord. 

8                                  You may say with something: “Bro. Lawrie, all this is a lie.” Come on! I challenge you from the Bible: Prove it is wrong, from the Bible! I challenge the whole Christian world. You bring the Bible and prove that I am wrong! Then I'll leave this ministry and go to the world. 

9                                  But I am a man with a mission. I was called by God, not by any man. I have to give an account to Him. I am afraid of Him than all the world. Did you ever think that one man is standing and telling the truth, all against the world? You don't think that. What makes this man stand? Why all the others are going back? Why, Bro. Swamikkan, going to all - so many places, he could have today been a big man. May be some Bishop of Madras even. He has a back bone. 

10                              Many Bishops have no back bone. They were saved and baptised by me; they have no power to say that they were baptized by me. They say: “One baptism.” Then why did the Bishop take second baptism? Why did the pastors take second baptism? They don't have a courage to stand. Because they say:

“We lose our money.” 

11                              But these people who are here, that is Jacobite Bishop, he also stands for the truth. Jothipackiam should have been Bishop of Kanyakumari. Just before he became the Bishop he had to come out. He had a back bone. He fought with the Bishop: “I don't believe in child baptism.” You can see all the letters, we will print it and send it out. And what did he say? “I won't baptize.” Then the Bishop said, “If you don't baptize, I will send you out.” He said, “You can make somebody baptize. I won't do that in future.” Then he said: “Then I can't make you be in this diocese.” Then the Lord filled him with the Holy Spirit. And then he was in the Ashram all these years. And he baptises many people - they are baptized by an ordained priest of C.S.I.1 The marriage license had been give back. 

12                              So my dear friends, there are so many people here. Bro. Arulanandham is here. And they are people who have been studying the word and accepted the truth. If anybody says: “Don't go to the meeting”, that means they are having something wrong. You can take of our believers to your churches. If you want, you can take all our people to your churches. We have not come to build a church. This is not a church, this is a movement. This is started by God Himself. 

13                              In Moon-landing day, it is a personal experience in my life. All this knowledge doesn't come from my brain. It is coming from the Spirit of Truth. So you can understand, this is not my knowledge - glory to God! Why do you want to disbelieve this? 

14                              Suppose you were in Jesus' time, you mean to say you would have accepted Him? Today you say: “Oh, Hallelujah! Jesus - Jejus - Jejus...” If you were there, you would have joined with the killing party. Not you - those who did not come. If you had been there those days, you would have gone and even put a nail on Jesus' back - not on the hands, but on the back. The other people would have put on His heart. But what do the people say today? “Oh, if we had been in Jesus' time, we would have fought for Him.” No! 

15                              Before Jesus came, John the Baptist came. And he was telling about his preparing the way. Big, big doctors were there; big engineers were there; big priests were there. Who accepted Jesus Christ? Only fishermen! Ordinary people, their eyes were opened. 

16                              There was a blind man. He never saw Jesus. He heard a voice - ‘Jesus of Nazareth is coming’. His eyes were opened. He started: “Son of David! Son of David! Have mercy on me!” (Mark 10:47) And immediately, Jesus stood there. He was not Son of David. Today many people say, 'Hosanna to the Son of David in the highest'. 

17                              Jesus was not David's son. I challenge the whole Christian world! Genealogy, everything, prove whether Jesus is Son of David. The throne of David can go only to one born in his blood. That is what God ordained before the foundation of the world. It is not any Bishop. You may be a big preacher. That blood - David's blood should run in your vein. He only can come to that place. 

18                              Mary had better knowledge than many Christians today. The angel came - “Hail Mary. The one which is going to be born in you, it is Holy thing, and the Lord God will give His father David's throne to Him.” (Luke 1:28-35) Then she asks: “How shall this be? I know not a man. I don't know any man, then how can He come to the throne of David?” So she had the knowledge, so she told the angel: “How can this be? I don't know a man. If I don't know a man, how can that man sit on the throne?” Because, the angel said: “The Lord God will give His father David's throne to Jesus.” So who is Lord God? It is a Man. It is a Man born in David's line is called Lord God. “Oh what, he has told like this? He is not a man at all.” 

19                              What did Paul say? “There is one God, one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5-6) Who is that? He is a man. “And He gave Himself as a ransom for all.” So that is what the Bible says. And 'Lord God' means: If you see the Bible, the unseen God, it is written in - 'L' capital, 'O' capital, 'R' capital and 'D' capital. Lord God -  Big 'L', small 'o', small 'r', small 'd' and big 'G', small 'od'. So this is a great thing. And that Lord God, His father is King David. So this clearly shows, the throne comes to Jesus not through the blood, but through atonement. 

20                              So through atonement, when Jesus becomes the Son of David, the Son of David becomes the Lord God through atonement. You may say, “What about these doctors who wrote for two thousand years?” But my friend, don't think this is my knowledge! Don't think I am a big man! Glory to the One who revealed this! Without this revelation no one can go in glory! Hallelujah!! Without this revelation no one can go one foot from this earth! Because - because this is a great thing! 

21                              Bible tells: 'He will make the wise fools.' (1 Corinthians 1:19) All this wisdom is foolish in the sight of God. I know: Two thousand years of publications is not true. Big doctors... This revelation was not anywhere found for two thousand years. And today, we must rejoice because God has not left us off!! Because God has come down to reveal this! I am not God. God is in me. God is in you. God is in everybody - But in a greater measure.

22                              So today I want all those who belong to God, you will hear this voice; that, I am not telling this of my own accord. Otherwise I will have lot of money, my family will enjoy money, we won't have any difficulty. My son will be an engineer; my other fellow would have been a veterinary doctor; this fellow might have been some doctor. But when they got the revelation, they left everything! 

23                              Today why is the church afraid? Why are these Pentecostal churches afraid today? Why they are slandering my name? Have I plundered anybody? Have I stole anybody's money? Did I cheat anybody? If I cheated, you come here, I'll pay the money back! Bring the receipt, bring the records. Don't say, “I gave him eighty thousand rupees”, being not able to even earn one thousand. 

24                              One man came from Kanyakumari. He never gave me any money. He came in front of the house. “Iyyoh, my eighty thousand is gone!” - “Hey, how did you get eighty thousand?” - “That, somehow... but my eighty thousand is gone.” - “Okay, then I will give you eighty rupees, you take it and go.” - “Okay.” How will the fellow who gave eighty thousand leave on giving eighty rupees? “Eighty rupees is enough for me, sir.” Like this only I had troubles. This is the trouble I had. 

25                              Then other Christians say: “Oh, is it so? It may be, may be.” Did I steal from you? You ask in Madras, did I steal from anybody? Did I take any offerings? God has been leading us for sixty four years in my life time. I am a happier man today than all these years. Because I need not preach today; this message is bringing the people. In Andhra one day, two thousand people were baptised. 

26                              Today this is not conversion; this is not conversion from one religion to another. This is 'getting revelation'. Yesterday a man wrote from Uttar Pradesh. “Swamiji2, I know God has come into you.” He is writing from there - a person from Sahaj Marg. “I want to come to you because my Guru has told about you.” 

27                              So today, already God has finished the work. You will be surprised to see when all the others come, the Madras people will be out. Why? Because you did so many damage - damage to the ministry, that you will be guilty and you won't face me. Why? Because this is truth. This truth will prevail! 

28                              They killed Jesus. But today, Jesus stands. All those who killed Jesus have gone away. Now today: “After two thousand years, why is this brother shouting like this a different gospel? We never heard like this before.” In the time of Jesus, Jesus was bringing a new gospel. All those days they were believing in Moses. What do they say? “We believe in Moses, but who is this fellow? (John 5:45) This fellow - we do not know from where He came.” But John knew from where He came. What does he say? “I am not worthy to loosen His shoes.” (Matthew 3:11) Then he says:  “He is coming after Me; but He was before me.” (John 1:15) Then they said: “Were you before Abraham?” - “Yes! Before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:57-59) If so, then why did He die? If He was before Abraham, why did He die? 

29                              So the Christians say: “Oh, He rose up from the dead.”  You don't believe that He died, then how are you going to believe that He rose up? Because a sacrifice will have to die. What did John say? He didn't say anything. “Behold the Lamb of God.” The Lamb of God did not come to kiss. “Come on you lamb, I'll kiss you” - He didn't come for that. God wanted to kill Him. Do you understand God's love, my friend? Is this the gospel which you hear today? “Be ye saved; come on! Come on! Repent of your sins!” - That's all; that time is over. 

30                              Sowing time for two thousand years finished! Now this is harvesting time! He is coming to harvest you! Are you giving fruit today? Is there fruit? That is the question. Are you a tare or a seed? If you are a seed, you will come to the house of the owner. You will come home. If you are a tare or a chaff,.... Do you know who flies? Chaff. You winnow like this, they fly. That flying group is only there today. You will fly up and come down. We will be transformed! That is the important thing. 

31                              Jesus said: “Those who believe in Me, even though he is dead he will raise again. He that liveth and believeth in Me, shall never die!” (John 11:25) Why did they swallow that? 

32                              Today: Any man who dies will get up. If he is living what will happen to him? He will never die. Man who told that died; man who preached that died. Those who believed in Jesus, they died. Two thousand years they were dying. 

33                              On Moon-landing day, I was in Chicago. Everything went according to the plan of God. In the Tabernacle, the entrance is in the East. (Bro. Lawrie points to the Tabernacle pattern.) But the glory comes in the West. Glory will never fall in the East, but the entrance is in the East. All the great religious leaders came only from the East, never from the West. They are all Asia Jothi. I am preaching Jesus who is ‘Asia jothi’, not the ‘American jothi’ or ‘London jothi’. My Jesus was not a white man. Remember that! But the white man is preaching a black Christ. Today a black man is preaching as a white man. But a Jew in those days was not white. It was brown colour. 

34                              Today - Jesus Christ is from Asia. All the books is about the Oriental religion only. And whatever is written in the Bible, it will fit in exactly with the Eastern people. But today, the religion which we preach today, Christ never preached. 

35                              See here! If someone smites you on your cheek, turn to him the other also. This only all the people preach. “If someone smites you here, you have to turn him the other.” (Matthew 5:39) Did Christ come for this only? But He took a whip and whipped. (John 2:14-16) Nobody will tell that. All those who preach - “If someone smites you on the cheek, turn to him the other also.” (Bro. Lawrie imitates their accenting.) If anybody comes and smites us on our cheek, we will return to him in ten cheeks. Why? That is what Jesus preached. 

36                              Listen carefully. This cheek - “Which is my right?” This is right. My son, with his right hand, how can he smite me on my right cheek? (Bro. Lawrie shows in action that it is possible to smite with the right hand on the left cheek only.) For that what should he do? But before that I'll punch him on his nose. Jesus Christ is a smart person. He is smarter than the white man. Why? 

37                              Matthew 5:39

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 

-- If some one smites you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. So, then, he can't

smite with his right hand on the other's right cheek. But if you study the thing clearly, this is a slavish religion that they are preaching. If you become a Christian, immediately you will become a slave. 

38                              One day I was in London Hyde park. At that time I was a 'wrestling' man. I can fight against twenty five people. Six years training in Jujitsu and boxing and wrestling and all. As I travel, I will beat the people. As I went to Hyde park, I saw a big Negro. Two small white men, they are beating. Blood is coming from this Negro's mouth. I was pitying him. “Brother, why are you getting beatings?” - “Brother, don't hinder the blessings that come to me. Don't make me lose my blessings. Jesus said, ‘Show the right cheek.’” And what are these two fellows doing? Drinking a lot, they are boxing him. The blood is pouring. 

39                              I couldn't bear that. I was just doing like this. I put a blow to each one of them. They fell 'thud'. “Why are you beating us?” - “You show the other cheek to me. Hey, show me. I beat you first, show me your cheek.” He rose up and ran. “Hey, show me the cheek.” Then he said: “A white man will not show his cheek.” Then only this fellows eyes were opened. He fell on my feet and said: “Oh, you opened my eyes.” If he had showed the cheek, then we would have believed that religion. But now, they are not showing the cheek, but I am showing all the time. This was in 1960. 

40                              In 1967 I went to London. In that one place, one lady - black Negro, was beating a white man. Then I asked: “Why are you beating?” - “That, seven years ago one brother came from India, our leader told us that through him he got a revelation, so he told all of us to beat the white people.” I know I was that man. “What is the name of that man?” She told that name. I slowly went away, because there is lot of trouble coming there. Because everywhere there is a revival going on. 

41                              Today, my dear Christians, we are all like a frightened folk of people. We are Indians. Now we must understand one thing. You may be a Muslim, you may be a Hindu, but you are an Indian. Why can't you live as a family? Why do you want to live as separate people? You can't get citizenship in Mecca. Catholics cannot get citizenship in Rome. Christians can't get citizenship in London or America. We have to live in this country. So you keep your religion for yourself. Let us be friends. 

42                              I don't want you to become a Christian. Don't join this present day Christians. I don't believe that. Believe God. You can believe in Jesus directly. He will give you peace. He will take your karma away. That is the religion I preach. We don't need a religion for that. We are a set of people who are against the separation in our country. Because in the name of religion which is no use today. ....(Cassette change.)

43                              The Muslims will ask one question: “How can Isa Nabi die?” You know, He came as a sacrifice. You know, if you see about Bakrid, one lamb dies for the family, so that your sins will go. 

44                              So Jesus was a lamb. He was baptized. Do you know in whose name He was baptized? In which name did He take? Nobody knows it. Today the Christian world don't know it. But if you see the Bible, Paul is asking a question. They didn't have the Holy Ghost. Then, “What baptism you took?” - “John's baptism.” Then Paul says, “He baptized in the One who has to come after him, that is Christ Jesus.” That was not Jesus. In that case, he would have told, “He was baptized in the name of Jesus.” In the name of one who is coming, Christ Jesus. (Acts 19:4) So He was baptized in the name of Jesus. Why? Christ Jesus is coming. So this lamb is dying for Him. 

45                              So when He was about to be baptized, John comes. God told him: “On whom the Spirit of God comes, that is the man who will be baptizing with the Holy Spirit.” So when He was baptized, then the heavens opened, the Spirit of God - not Holy Spirit. (Matthews 3:16) Spirit of God is different from Holy Ghost. That is, the Spirit of God is directly coming from unseen God. As He comes - does it say ‘form?’ Like a dove. That is, it comes, as it comes, why the Spirit of God has to come? Does it mean that Jesus never had the Spirit of God? When you are baptized, the significance of baptism is burial. 

46                              So when you are sacrificing an animal, you have to wash it. So the priest has to wash and kill Him. So John the baptist comes to baptize. Immediately there another Spirit is coming. That is the Spirit of Christ Jesus. As it comes in, from that moment He was Son of David. That is, the human Son of David - He is dying for Him. So the life has gone to Him. The life Jesus went into Him, His death came here. 

47                              So when He was killed - usually a sacrifice was burnt to ashes. After that it is burnt, it never comes again; you don't see it again. If you are going to see that sacrifice again, that means your sin will remain in you. But if you believe that He is no more, it is burnt, God smells the sweet savour. He smelt! That's a sacrifice. Then this life - the blood atones for the sin. 

48                              So two thousand years, there is no temple for worshipping among the Jews. That synagogue was broken. It is all according to the Bible. Because there is a story of scapegoat in sixteenth chapter of Leviticus. It's a very nice picture there - very nice picture about scapegoat. It is happening exactly now to that. 

49                              When Jesus died, there was no synagogue. It is all destroyed. Two thousand years there is no regular worship or sacrifice. Because seven church ages have to go. Seven times, it's the number for the gentiles. And till the seven ages is finished, you cannot have the fullness. But people today, they think the Holy Ghost is fullness. No, you are wrong! If you had the fullness, you will not die. Oh, how they jump! If they speak in tongues he says that it is coming as ‘Para, para, para, para.’ What style that is! Only if they talk so they have Holy Ghost it seems, and it doesn’t matter however bad their life may be. Must just jump, must fall down, bang, bang and break the table - ‘Hallelujah’. These call me a thief and robber. If I start telling their craftiness, they will have to run away from their place.

50                              Why I am telling this, every thing according to old Testament, the New Testament, it's happening. If you don't believe the Old Testament, you won't understand the New Testament. If I tell anything to you not in the Old Testament, it won't be in the New Testament also. You can see the picture of the tabernacle. That is the way God talking to the people. 

51                              In the beginning, when God was teaching the people, He wrote the story of salvation and redemption in heaven. That is the twelve zodiac signs. It starts from Virgo and ends in Leo. That is the story of redemption. Starts from virgin Mary and ends in the lion of the tribe of Judah. But what did the astrologers do? They started in goat. Because they are goat. Unconverted people are called 'goat'. And from there he starts and lost the story of redemption. So from that day astrology has no meaning. Why? It has to start in Virgo and end in Leo. That is why the thing called Sphinx came. That is the key. 

52                              Then the people started worshipping the zodiac signs. On the top of heavens they brought this pictures there. Any fool won't build a thing - tower to the heaven. There were no such fools those days. They were bringing the story of redemption from the stars and worshipping that. Then God got angry and came down. God gets angry when you don't understand Him. Today people do not know, who God is. One fellow says: ‘God is one, one God’.  ‘One nation, one God’ and a song for that. One God, one family. Another will say, ‘One nation and all are relations’.

53                              In Tirunelveli I went to a Hindu college. On seeing me the principal said: “One nation and all are relatives.” - “Sir, a Christian needs a place, will you give?” - “That, it is not for a Christian.” But - “One nation and all are relatives.” (Bro. Lawrie laughs.)

54                              Today many people, they have a slogan. 'Greetings!' It will just stop with the greetings, but there, the heart won’t greet. There are great speakers today. Only on moving close to them you will know. There is nothing there. But you must understand, we must be practical people. 

55                              After that, God always wanted to talk to man. Now this electric current, if it is not there, everything will go dark. But when the light is put on, many people say... (Actions like worshipping them is shown by Bro. Lawrie.) Did that make you? They worship that immediately. But that current is there. Nobody knows from where the current comes from. Even today, they can write books on electricity. Where from it starts, who started it and where it is going to end, no fellow knows. When you rotate a motor, they get a current. How does it come? “Don’t know, sir!” When there is a current, there is electricity, magnetism and light. From where it comes? They do not know the origin of it. But they can create that by mechanical means. 

56                              In the same way, God is everywhere. He is in the chicken. When you bite and eat chicken, God was in that chicken too! One day suddenly a revelation came - ‘All these fishes and all these, are dead bodies’. But people like it, taste is good. I also ate. One day it came to my senses that I was only eating a corpse. ‘Che, che, che, Corpse? I don’t want this.’

57                              I became a vegetarian. My wife used to bring nice fried things. “Why don’t you eat?” - “Hereafter I will not eat corpse. It is all dead thing only.” Not that I want you to be vegetarian. You may eat. I got a revelation like that. Because I saw God everywhere. I see in the trees. That current is everywhere. It's in the stones. It's everywhere. But nobody has seen that power. That is God. 

58                              No one has seen God at any time. (John 1:18) You are telling as if you had seen some thing and that you talked to him through the telephone. “Oh, that preacher is talking to God in telephone.”  Nonsense! He has never seen God. He that has seen God won’t talk to him through a telephone. He will be talking in the spirit. You have to worship God in Spirit and in truth. (John 4:24) You must worship the Lord in spirit and truth. How can you worship God without the Holy Ghost? 

59                              Today, what do they do in the church? One person comes,... When I was a small boy, I was a

very mischievous fellow. So my mother said: “You must receive confirmation.” Then I told my mother, “Women only should deliver,3 should I also deliver?“ - “No boy, if you take this, you won't sin.” So I thought there must be some ‘mantram’4. So I was studying to the Catechism. On that day of my confirmation, three of my friends died in the pool. Then I was afraid. Then that day I am going with fear - “Lord you saved me today, today I am receiving confirmation.” 

60                              So when I went there, two or three boys were there - mischievous fellows. “Dey, we are going to deliver today. Today, we are males yet we are going to bring forth.” So we were all in white dress. That time just holy - white holiness! 

61                              Some people think, because you put a white dress, you become holy. No! You must put on the blood of Jesus dress. Otherwise you will never become white. 

62                              Then what happens? The big man comes. 'Phoo', he has it like that. (Bro. Lawrie shows in action how the big man after smoking the cigarette put it in a certain place and came.) Then I was coming at that time. “Dey, dey, dey, He smoked cigarette and came!” Then I went there. I was with piety. “Receive, receive, receive.” Then my friend is poking me: “Did anything come?” - “No! Did you get anything?” - “No!” - “Why then is he saying ‘receive’?” 

63                              We went straight home - “Mother, why you also want to deceive us. Did you send us there to be deceived? We have not received anything.” Come you fellows take the sling shot and let us be off. I became a very bad fellow. 

64                              Then one day, I went and told the Pastor.... The song is: “Take not away the Holy Ghost from us.” I asked  him, “When did it come to you that you could sing, ‘Take not away’?” - “Little brother you should not be mischievous.” - “When did it come to you? Then why do you say, ‘Do not take it away? We don’t have it.” - “That is, you are a small boy.” I got confused. I went to my daddy. “When did you get it?” - “Dey! Why all this for you? You study well the subjects. This can’t be got easily.” 

65                              I went to a place, I started seeking saying, ‘Lord!’ The Holy Ghost came into me. Happiness came. In that case, are all these not deceit? Are not these people only calling me a thief! And don't these people support only that? In that case, will God be on my side or on the side of the worldly people? Hallelujah!

66                              The whole world may come, but God is with me. God is with me and with those who are with me. Then you will find how God is acting for you. Don't worry about your sickness. It is gone! It is gone! As you hear the message it will go away! Hallelujah! Because healing is our property! So we have to be healthy! I believe in this ministry that you will be healed, as you believe this message. 

67                              Then when the Holy Ghost came, then only I was worshipping God in the Spirit. Otherwise nobody can worship in the truth. Then I thought God is with the Pentecost. I went to all places. And I preached also. But the troubles I had - I suffered there more than here. I had been getting always scoldings from there. But I was travelling. But I found out truth in many places. That is what I am giving you the truth which I learnt from many hard troubles. 

68                              So in these meetings, these messages will enlighten you. So when I got the Holy Ghost, I

thought I will become holy. All join together and say that they have become holy. But for me, I don’t like to mention some thing that I didn’t have. Because if I do some wrong, my wife knows one thing - “Did you do this mistake?” - “I did.” Then she won’t scold me. If I say ‘no’ she will not give up. Because she knows I will tell the truth. So today even - “I have to ask you the truth about a certain thing.” I become shaky, because I should surely come up with the truth. On seeing that face, “Oh,  today she is not going to give up.” - “That is, were you talking with this person?” - “How did you see?” - “I know.” - “Yes, yes.” - “Careful hereafter. Don’t talk!” - “Okay.” So, I was used to speak the truth. So like that I was telling the truth. So in preaching also I want to tell the truth. 

69                              So when I went to certain places, they were teaching me so many things, but I couldn't take it. One thing! I thought I became holy after getting salvation. All testimonies - “Beloved brothers and sisters, I got saved. Now I don’t sin. Though I fall I will get up, though I get up I will fall.” Foolish fellows! Deceived, thieves, tell the truth! Say ‘I will fall!’ “If I fall I will get up!” He also gets up if he falls and you also get up if you fall, then what have you got specially? “I will fall, I will get up, will fall, will get up.” Then I said, “I also try to get up and get up, yet I fall again.” Then when I went and asked them - “Do you fall or get up?” - “Brother, we should not tell our faults.” - “Oh, you scoundrels, if you don't tell your fall, will not the other be deceived?”

70                              Then what did I do? I tried fasting. Forty days fasting, drinking water only. I thought all my sin will go away after forty days. My wife thought, “Hereafter he will become a good person.” She also took a twenty days fast along with me. Then what happened? Everything leaves! All desires leave. Because there is no strength. The desires don’t leave, there is no strength. Can’t walk. Didn’t know where the fleshy lusts went! I thought, “Holiness has come to me.” Forty, forty days were over and slowly the vitality increased. The thief who left returns! The cousin who left returned with double strength. Why? Now the system digests well. It becomes stronger than before. What becomes more strong? All the desires are getting stronger.

71                              Then I thought, Paul only is a clever person! “Wretched man I am.” Today, Christians don’t have his character. “O wretched man that I am! - O wretched men that we are!” (Romans 7:24) You will never have holiness. That is why He gave the Holy Ghost. Why the Holy Ghost comes? When you shine the light, you will know where the snake is and where the scorpion is. Otherwise you won’t know. The Holy Ghost light came to show what a useless sinner you are. On receiving the Holy Ghost you just come down! On falling down, “Lord! Now only I know what kind of a thief I am.” Then only religion starts for you. Then only salvation starts for you! But you, before falling say, “I have come, I have come!?”  

72                              Come on! I have been living for sixty four years in this world. Today you may testify - “Come on, lift your hands.” All these will testify and say - “Lord, we are saved.” After it is over, two more bottles of whisky - after being saved. “What, sir!” - “That, I went there for the meetings, but it has returned.” It will return! So don’t become proud because of that!

73                              Then I told God,.... I couldn't understand because others are giving good testimonies. My wife is telling, “You are the worst fellow.” I am telling, “Have they all not become good?” Then I started to go among them and observe. Then I went to Purasawakkam. Then God gave me some gifts. I came to a Pentecostal church in Purasawakkam. I was sitting there. “Praise the Lord, Hallelujah.” Then the vision went. I saw the pastor was living with another woman. I saw adultery there. So I told the man, “My friend, go and tell your Pastor that he is ‘keeping’ this girl.” That was the first blow that I got. “Out! Get out you fellow.” If you want blows tell the truth. You tell the truth, you will get a backing out. 

74                              Then, one day I learnt the righteousness of God. Blood is here. We are bad people. Take that blood, O brother! Leave out your ‘Self’. Jesus died. He died for you. He died so that you may live. Not that He might live! He died that you may live. If He died, you rise again. If He rises again you have no hope. That is my salvation! 

75                              What did Jesus say? A seed, if it doesn't die, it remaineth alone. If it dies, it brings forth many fruit. (John 12:24) One Jesus died, I want to present Jesus for every one of you. Come one, you all have Jesus, come on! You have Christ living in you! 

76                              What did Paul say? “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” (Colossians 1:27) It is not a religion. It is not a Pentecostal religion. It is not the Brethren Mission. None of these people will go in glory. You have to have Christ. 

77                              You see in the Bible about adultery. Ten commandments. “I am the Lord God that brought you out of Egypt. I am the son of David that brought you out of Egypt.” ‘Other than Me’ - it doesn’t say so in the English Bible. “Have no gods before me.” (Exodus 20:3) Don't put any gods before me - that is the correct translation. 

78                              And if you see the Bible, every place, God gets angry for depending on something. Every man, the moment he realizes God, he must love Him with all his heart, all his soul, all his body and all his mind, the Lord. All these churches are enemies of that. They are treacherous dealers to that love. O brother, O sister, don't allow anybody to pluck that love from God. Otherwise you are committing adultery. 

79                              What is spiritual adultery? Not depending on God. If you are not depending on God totally, you are all adulterers. What is the life that pleases God? What is the life that pleases God? David was a very bad man. What does He say? He committed murder; he committed adultery. He is a worst fellow; in today's society, he is a bad fellow. What did God say? “A man after My own heart”! I didn’t have sleep for a long time. “Lord, I am a better person than him, yet You call me a thief and him... You are telling he is man after Your own heart! (Acts 13:22) I can't understand You! You make me understand this.” 

80                              Then one day, I was travelling all over. There's an old man about ninety six years. He has a book. And that book was sent to me long ago. I am carrying this book with me. One day I read it. I wanted to see this old man. As I went in, it was very cold. “Bro. Page, I am Bro. Lawrie come to see you.” - “Come brother, I am waiting for you.” So I slept that night with him, in Pennsylvania. He didn’t have a

heater also. In the night, I was shaking, I felt like the Holy Ghost had come. But it was cold. 

81                              Some will just be shaking their hand and say that Holy Ghost has come. What will some do? They will say like this. (Bro. Lawrie shows some actions like shaking the hands.) It seems the people should see by observation that he is having the Holy Ghost. Then the Pastor will come - ‘God has filled you with much power!’

82                              One day I went to a Pentecostal church. One lady was there. ‘Bang, bang’ and was beating the table and the chair and all, and from the women’s side she goes always to the men's side. That lady always goes to the men’s side. Then I had a doubt. She was living next to my house. I prayed, She fell down with a ‘thud’, and the devil left her. Next Sunday she went to church. No shaking or anything. “What, you have fallen? Where has your power gone?” - “That, Bro. Lawrie drove it away.” - “He is a man possessed with an unclean spirit.”....

83                              Then he plans to come up. He works and works and works. Then he becomes a big man. Then they come. Now so much honour. Now, “Reverend so and so, our honoured minister, he is always ours, he is our eye and nose and now he is our leader.” Then glory comes there - Namasthae!5 They will put him in the car and carry him like that. (Bro. Lawrie shows in action how the fellow greets the people.) Monkey pranks, all these things will come. He is taking the glory for himself. He has worked for it, and he chose it himself. Are you one of them? You are not pleasing God. 

84                              Second person, he doesn't find anything in politics. He chooses God. Till then he is good only. After that - in the elections whom will you vote?’ Today, what is the Christian church doing today? No godly man has any place in religion today! Come out! Because you have no place there! You can't stand in election. If you stand in the elections you won’t get votes because you are a good person. A good person won’t get votes. If you are a wicked fellow you will get the number one votes. So today, in Tirunelveli, there is a big fight for voting. Let that be so. We don’t need that. So, then he gets a big name. “Now our reverend, our head - bishop has come.” Garland him! He takes the garland. This is the second religious man. Choosing religion and has come as a pious man by himself. 

85                              Thirdly there is a person. That is the man that pleases God. He accepts God and from that day, he won't plan his life. He dies for his life. Then he gets the Holy Spirit. Then the Holy Ghost plans the life. Then God makes him a big man for the truth. Then they bring the garlands. What will he say then? “There is one above me sirs! Garland Him! Glory to Him.” 

86                              All glory to my Father! I am standing before you to bring glory to my Father! Let Him be glorified! I will see that He is glorified in my life! That is why he chose me. That is why I stand for the truth today. If this is not the truth, then tell me all kinds of names. If this is the truth, this words will judge you one day. Then, when the glory comes, they will never take the glory, they will give the glory to the unseen God. Because that Spirit only did that. 

87                              So what did David do? He was working in the fields. Goliath has come. And he is trying to frighten the people. So David goes. “I will kill him - not to marry Saul's daughter. I will show that the God is in Israel! - for that sake.” He took a stone, put on the head. 

88                              You know how Goliath fell down? Watch carefully! He didn’t fall by the stone striking him! He fell upon his face to the earth! If the stone hits the forehead, he won't fall here, he will fall like this.

(Bro. Lawrie shows in action like falling backwards.) But he falls to the front. The blow hit from behind! God gave him a blow from back, because he is there to bring glory to the God of Israel! 

89                              Then, not only that; when he committed sins, not like our present day people: Drinking sin, he will say 'no sin'. King David didn’t say like that in Psalm fifty one. “Lord help me, that my transgressions may be blotted out.” That is the real confession. Be what you are - confess all your sins. We will see whether any sickness remains in you. All your sickness will go. The ministry today God has given, one word from Him is enough for your sickness. If I say ‘Heal you’, you are healed. That is the power God has given today. So believe that. 

90                              So what happens? King David, was so humble. He never took the glory. Such a big king, he was waiting under the bush - tree to hear the voice of God. He always followed God. When Saul was there, king David was there. He was always a second man. That is why the name of the throne was what? What is the name for God's Throne? David’s throne! It was not David's throne, it's God's throne. He allowed God sit on the throne! He never sat on the throne. I am not sitting on the throne of God! I'll make God sit on the throne. Today, He is the one fit for the throne. So may He be glorified. God bless you. 

91                              Let us pray. Every eye closed. Open your hearts to God. Are you living a life that pleases God, or are you pleasing man? Are you pleasing some society? You love Him as your husband. Are you going to follow Him? Are you going to follow Him at all cost? Are you going to follow Him fully? 

92                              My dear friends, God is speaking to you today. If you hear His voice, don't resist it. Ask Him to come into your life. Ask Him to fill your life. On whom are you depending? Are you depending on God? Are you depending on a denomination? Are you afraid of God or a man? That will judge you today! If you are depending on God, don't look to other things. It is spiritual adultery. Be like David. Even though we are sinners, we can please God today! God will give His righteousness. 

93                              Let us pray. Loving Saviour, I thank you for this day. Thank You for making me preach the truth. Bless them today. Every sickness, every weakness, every short limbs, every incurable disease, in the wonderful name which You have revealed to us, in the New Name, we ask you to be healed! Be thou healed! Rise up and go! Thank You, Jesus.

-- Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie

November 29, 1983

Madras - Periyar Thidal

 

1          C.S.I. - Church of South India. 2        Swamiji - Master

3   The word ‘Perudhal’ in Tamil is used to denote ‘receiving’ as well as ‘delivery' or 'bringing forth’ of a child by a woman.

4   Mantram - A word or sound, repeated to aid concentration in meditation - in Hinduism and Buddhism.

5   Namasthae - Paying humble respect

I WARN THE PREACHERS 

WHO HAVE THEIR OWN WAY

1                                  Praise be to the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. All glory to our heavenly Father, the Lord Jesus. In these days, very important messages are going, which is true to God's word. 

2                                  First of all, I don't see many people reading the Bible, or studying the Bible for themselves. They listen to some fallen preacher who has no background or backbone. They are dumb dogs as said in the Bible. (Isaiah 56:10) And their only aim is their belly and money, and they will never allow you to read the Bible. And in the meetings also, they don't preach the true word. Whether it is a big man or small man, it can be Billy Graham, it can be an ordinary man in our preachers, just putting your hands up doesn't mean conversion. God should have chosen you before the foundation of the world. And then you will come to Him. 

3                                  And today, if you just sincerely listen with a real desire to know more about God, you will find this message, which was never preached for two thousand years in fullness. Not that because Bro. Lawrie is a great man. I am a great man in one thing, as being a sinner, I am the greatest sinner. So I am a great man in that line. But I know one thing, because I was a sinner, the grace of God revealed so many things. I know what I preach and I know what I am. I know what purpose God called me. 

4                                  First of all, every brother and sister must know for what purpose he or she was called. For that you must go in meditation and seeking God. 

5                                  Today we see many preachers in this world, having lot of money. When I travelled round the world in 1960, I went to preach for India in the World Conference of Religions, as a main speaker for India. I met people from all over the world. And from there, I was able to travel round the world for one year. When I left India I left with five and a half anas1. I never knew I was able to travel so much. If I tell the story, it's a long story. But I never joined any church or any denomination. Till now I am a man of God only attached to Jesus Christ. And all my children and everybody, they depend on God only. And I am proud about it. 

6                                  So we have come here with the whole family, to show that Jesus lives today. And what happens? As we went there, I was praying for eight hours, nine hours, meditating. And God was able to reveal to me where I should go and where I should not go. And everybody told me to join their churches or groups; otherwise I must join some foreign group in India, otherwise they won't take you in. 

7                                  Every person who goes to America today, they'll go to some church under the sponsorship of a church. So they have no difficulty. But I went through thick and thin of life. As I was travelling, I went to the bars. Bar is an arrack shop, liquor shop. And I found there, the best people are there. 

8                                  Where there is a drunkard, you find a very good man there. Today people say, “Oh, that fellow is a drunkard.” But today, in America, the people who saved my live from destruction were only these drunkards. I used to go there. They'll say, “Hello, boy where did you come from?” - “From India.” - “Do you like to drink?” - “No, no, give me some soda.” Then they will take you to their house. The wife will be crying. I'll tell them about life. They will leave their drinking and then they will build up the family, and they will love me. And their families, all, “Bro. Lawrie, you saved our family.” They won't have any money. 

9                                  But even today after many years, if I go on the road - one man called John Klucit. Somehow he heard after twenty years that I have come. Took the telephone: “Lawrie! Are you the same Lawrie whom I met 20 years ago?” - “Are you John?” - “Yea! My goodness. I want to see you right now. I am in this address. You come and see me.” There the man was standing there. He told me, “I will be in a black coat, with a hat, with an umbrella.” So I saw him there, standing with an umbrella. He came and embraced me. “My dear brother, you saved my life.” He took me to his house and we had a nice time. That is the way I went. I had no proper food. Nobody will give me money. And all the people were treating me badly, except these bad people. 

10                              One big group I went. The main preacher could not walk. He had some pain. So I went to him: “Shall I pray for you?” I prayed! It became alright. “My! It went away like this? Bro. Roberts prayed yesterday, it never happened. This went away! You are somebody great.” Then some people came running. Then after some time, about twenty white people came, “Get out immediately!” I said, “Why?” - “Because everybody will think that you are a great man.” So I went outside. So all the people came, they cried, “We know brother, one day, that God visited this city.” 

11                              So I was in the bus, some people beat me there. It's a big group. I went. Like that I had wonderful experiences. Went to the police station. Now, the ones that go now selling the truth, these big leaders - Judas sold Jesus for thirty silver, now these radio preachers sell God for dhosai, idli.2 

12                              So one day I went to a certain place, and there was a queue. Those days we couldn't sit in a white man's seat. They will beat you. Without knowledge I went and sat in the place. Within five minutes I got blows. Then I was walking. Then I met some people. One lady came - “Get away, black monkey.” Should my mouth not be quiet? I told, “You white monkey.” - “Mmm!” Her husband came, her sister's husband came: Holding me against the wall, he is punching, punching and punching me. “Lord, showing one cheek, I have shown the other cheek also; but this fellow is thrashing me!” Then one fellow put a blow in the stomach. Stomach is like iron, it bounced! It was like rubber. Then I got angry. After touching two or three nerves, all the three fellows sat down. Couldn’t get up. I was taken to the police station. “This fellow beat all our people.” The police said, “Who are you? How dare you touch these people?” - “How dare he blow me on the stomach?” - “Brother, you must know, this is America.” I said, “I am coming from Gandhi's India.” I told like this pushing my chest forward. See, what Gandhi did for us! He made us hold our heads up!

13                              Then what happened? “Who are you?” - “I am a missionary come here to preach the gospel.” - “Hmm? Preacher to America?” - “Yes.” - “Indians don't come here to preach, Indians come here to beg money.” - “I came here to preach for you.” Then the police man said, “Shut up.” Then he said, “Can you show papers?” I showed the invitations from world conference and so many big people. “So you know this man?” - “They invited me.” Then he went out - “He is a great man, don't get us - don't make him to get into trouble. But please make the people get up.”  Then rubbing their nerves I made them come back to normal. Then they wished me. “We are sorry brother.” Now, 'Brother'. Now monkey became a brother. “Come visit our home. Oh, we belong to that brother's church.” - “Oh, glad, glad, glad.” 

14                              So I can tell you so many incidents. I didn't bring money. When I came to India, I was very fat. I came in front of my wife,  “Who are you sir?” - “You silly! I am your husband.” - “You have come back so fat!” - “That, the food I took is like that.” - “But how much would you have brought?” - “You only have to pay for the taxi.” So she gave the money for the taxi. Then that's the end of American trip. No dollars, nothing!  The ones that go now, just bring dollars, it seems. I am not jealous of that. You bring lot of dollars; but one day you have to stand before the judge! ‘Did you buy milk cows? What did you do? What do you do? Did you build multi storeyed houses?’ What will you do then, brother? You say, “Brother Lawrie has got a lot of houses in Trivandrum.” You come, show me the houses, you go to the people and bring the title deeds. There are none!

15                              One fellow wanted me to buy a house for fifty thousand. At that time I had little money. Some people said, “We'll give you money.” Immediately we put it for the meetings. Because many people are able to find out God. It is not because we are very rich, we are having these meetings. But I know every pie which comes to the meeting will be written in heaven by God! Hallelujah!  You have your share there. But other people, you won't get share. Why? Because they are not preaching the truth. What I am preaching today? You may tell - because you are blinded by the money, you may tell your own doctrines. 

16                              But God always talks for two people. He talked in parables. So when they came to Jesus: “Why do you talk in parables?” If you see here, St. Mark fourth chapter, 11, 12 and 13. Read. Is Bro. Joel here? (Bro. Lawrie calls Bro. Joel for reading the Bible.)

         11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: 

-- ‘Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God.’ You mean to say, God

has given this power to understand, for other people? Out of thousands of people, only twelve apostles were given that privilege. ‘Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God.’    

but unto them that are without, 

-- ‘To them that are without!’ Brothers! Sisters! Are you inside or outside? If you are outside,

you will never understand. You will only say, 'blasphemy'.  “It seems Bro. Lawrie calls himself Son of Man.” Am I telling? Am I not a man? I am a man and if I say, ‘Son of Man’, that means I am born to a man. For this they get angry. Are you not born to a man? Were you born to a monkey? Why do you get angry? Jesus was not ‘Son of Man’.  To which man was He born?

17                              I challenge the whole Christian world! Challenge all the churches and Pentecostal people who talk so much! Can you tell me to what man He was born? Then why do you want to talk? Which son of David was His father? If son of David is His father, which son of David? To which David was He born? Jesus was not born to any man or woman. He was born of God, He was born of Christ Jesus. And He came down to reveal Himself. 

18                              Today no man has seen God at any time. (John 1:18)  But you are talking that you have seen! God is everywhere. He is like the electric current. You can understand Him by His move. By fan running, we know there is electricity. By that light, we know there is electricity. But how to reveal that? He has no form to reveal. That is why He created one Person, called First Born. That is the first creation. 

19                              If you can understand me, this message was given by God directly to me! If anybody could have preached this two thousand years ago - not that I am proud about it! It is His grace that this revelation comes to you, my friends! Grace! Grace! Grace! This is immense grace!.... (Break in recording.)

20                              They will surely be taken in glory! All the others will go to tribulation! There I will meet them, when you are in tribulation! Jesus said: “You will - In that day - In that day, you will come and say, ‘We ate with You, You preached in our streets, You ate with us’.” (Luke 13:26-27) What qualification? “You ate with us, You preached in our streets, don't you remember us?”  Because of this fellow’s denial now, then, One is going to deny you saying, ‘I know you not’, o brother! 

21                              “Oh, Brother Lawrie, we were converted in your ministry.” These cowardly fellows don’t have the boldness to tell even that! Bishops don’t have the courage! They have taken two baptisms. I can give you all the names. Every preacher on the radio, 90% is our believers, baptized by us in Jesus' name, and filled with the Holy Ghost. I don't want to tell their names. They are not worthy to be uttered. Because they have no back bone. But see what they are preaching! “There is only one baptism.”  Which baptism is that? Not donkey baptism - one baptism, correct baptism, in the name of Jesus. There is only one in that! There is no twenty eight in that. But you took two baptisms. Why do you want to preach, there is only one baptism? 

22                              Today you say, 'There is only one baptism'. But you came to me and took two baptisms. And then you are enjoying the blessings of that baptism. And today you have become a big preacher, and you told bad things about me. Anybody telling bad about me, he has no Holy Spirit. Because if you know where the Holy Ghost is coming from, if you are talking against me, you won't have the Holy Ghost. You get the devil's possession immediately. It is true. If I pray for you, you will fall down. Why? Because, God is...... 

23                              You know when Jesus came, you didn't get the Holy Ghost. You got an advance. Suppose you buy something, it is two thousand rupees: You will pay hundred rupees, “This is advance. I'll pay the full amount and take it back.” Then I have to pay thousand and nine hundred rupees, you get the thing back. Till then, that thing cannot come to you. He has to take care. After you pay the full amount, you will bring it slowly.

24                              So Bible says, “I am going away, I will send you a Comforter.” (John 16:7) Comforter is not the fullness. Today Pentecostal people say,  “The whole thing has come to us, sirs!” 

25                              In the Holy of Holies, there are three places. Holy of Holies, Holy place, Outer, and then the camp. These three places are there. Only one gate in the East. And through that gate, you have to bring the sacrifice, and the sinner has to come. Any man can go to the outer. But to go to the Holy place, you can't go with any property. You have to sell everything and become a Levitical man.  Otherwise death for you. You can't get in. When you go in, you can't have any inheritance in this world. Because between the Holy of holies and holy place, it is built in heaven. So anybody going in,.... 

26                              When Jesus came: “If you want to follow Me, you forsake everything and follow Me.” (Luke 14:26) “What? Can’t one do ministry, while working in a bank?” Where is it in the Bible? Bring the fellows! “Could we not do a job?” You do, but you must be outside only. If you go in, you are dead! What does the fellow say? “Oh, we entered the Holy of Holies when the veil was rent!” Why? To die there. If you go to that Holy of Holies, you die. If you go to the Holy of Holies, you are dead! You can't enter in. Only one person can go. That is - among the high priests, one man. But anybody going into the holy place, that fellow cannot have anything in this world.  Should not touch!

27                              So when Jesus came, He told His disciples, “Leave everything and come.” For the gospel work today, if God could take you in, He has to go to Paul and Peter and everybody -  “Please forgive me dears. Dhinakaran has become eligible, Rose Pandian has become eligible, Saral Navroji has become eligible, all have become eligible, but children, out of ignorance I have told you to leave everything.” He has to go and ask forgiveness from Paul. Why? Because these people have become great and gone into the Holy of Holies. Outside there is no place - you are standing outside only! All the fellows are standing outside only! Who goes in? Everybody who forsook everything. “Unless you forsake everything, you cannot be My disciple!” Then how will you become a disciple?

28                              Today people simply think that it is open - everything is simply open! Beyond that it is not open. The veil of the temple - where is it? Holy of Holies - veil of the temple. In that second place, it was rent, so we can go in. But how? You have to meet the conditions. But Holy of Holies, you can't even dream of going in. There is no telephone kept there. You can't talk to God in telephone. 

29                              That is why Bible says, “There is one God, one Mediator between God and man. It is not a angel Christ Jesus, but 'Man', Christ Jesus.” Only Christ Jesus is the mediator between God and man. You can only approach up to Man. You can't touch God in your life, except by the Holy Spirit. But Christ Jesus, He is not having the Holy Spirit, He is having the Spirit of God in fullness. That is the Spirit of the Lord. Holy Spirit is for others. Because He can go to God in the Holy of Holies. 

30                              So when Moses came, he came down to establish the outer. So God came down in him. It came to Mount Sinai. And God spoke to him. At that time, the outer was opened. Jesus came to establish the Holy place. So He was killed in the altar. Jerusalem was the altar. After He is killed, quickly in succession... (Side change.)

31                              The curtain was torn.  Not from below, but from above! That means, after death of Jesus you can go into the Holy of Holies, leaving everything. Otherwise you will all fall dying there. But now, on Moon-landing day, the Holy of Holies - God came down to establish the Holy of Holies! That is why He came. And today He comes with the secret message, to prepare His people. Coming like a thief. Why thief? He comes to steal, not pots and pans - not pots, not your shoe. All these preachers are like shoes -  worn out, headless shoes. He didn’t come to carry them away. He comes to take the gold! Are you a gold? If you are not gold, you are not going. 

32                              Job says, “I see on the right side, I can't see God.” (Job 23:8-10) Job was such a great man, one who had lost everything. He is seeing on the right side, he can't see God. He can't see on the left. He saw the working, but he can't perceive God. And in the front, he couldn't see. But it seems, this fellow talks through the telephone! He has not left even a quarter penny, but saving and saving all the money and putting in the bank, he has become like a Korangini goat3. 

33                              But here - what happens here? When you go into the Holy of Holies, you can't go - all of you can't go. One priest goes there. And there is another thing, I'll tell you tomorrow. So Job said, “After He has tried me” - after He has tried! Where has trial come to you?

34                              You may be a preacher, but you are only belly preacher. But when you are tried,.... I have been scolded by everybody. As I go,  they will just say, “American money, sir! See how he is!” My wife will be there, the fellow will be going in the cycle: “He is getting in great abundance, sir” - Christian will say. For me, one day I gave a kick to the fellow in the cycle: “What you fellow?” - “I thought you were a Christian, but you are kicking. Are you a Christian?” - “After kicking you, I should break your head well with a stone!” Why? They simply say whatever comes in the mouth. These are all temptations. So when you overcome that, you come forth as gold. He is coming for that gold, not this old pans and pots. So today, are you ready to meet God? 

35                              Now see, Jesus, He didn't give the full spirit for the people. Because if you take a pyramid or a prism, so if light goes in, seven colours come. That is why the Hindus say, “Seven births, seven ages.” Till that, you can't get white light. So this white light is divided into seven colours; it has to pass through seven stages, and then come to the white light. Then only it will be pure. In the same way, the seven times will have to pass. That's why in the Bible it says, “The blood will have to be sprinkled seven times.” (Leviticus 4:6) 

36                              So what happens here? When Jesus died, the Spirit of God, every age one seventh of the spirit came. That is why people had to die. In Paul's time, Luther's time, Columbus' time, Wesley's time, one seventh of the spirit was given. And nobody gave the full truth. And many people sacrificed their lives. Why? Because by that sacrifice they knew one thing: That - last round, there will be some - David coming, and He will bring the fullness. They all died in that faith. 

37                              So, Bible says, “If I go, I'll send you the Comforter.” (John 16:7) When the calf dies, they put hay into the skin of that calf, they put it near the cow. Then there he will milk the cow. To comfort that, it is there. That's the Comforter. When the child is drinking milk, they will put a soother in the mouth. It will keep on sucking but no milk will come.

38                              That is why in the Bible it says, ‘Everlasting life’. Bible school teaching, you have been many years in the Bible school, do you know the difference between everlasting life and eternal life? Every age they got everlasting life. But these people say,  ‘Brooooo it has come, brooo it has come.’ They will jump twice, then clap their hands ‘tup, tup’. The Holy spirit is not afraid of all these. Don't think you will go in glory. One seventh of the spirit came for each age. There are seven spirits before God. 

39                              Read the Bible. You don't read the Bible! You read Litania. What's the use of that Litania? What's the use of that Apostle’s creed? When you have no faith, what's the use of your reading the Pontius Pilate's faith?  Apostle’s creed it seems! Who wrote it? It is not the Bible. All these things are created by man. You don't read the Bible. And people say, they take interpretations in their own way. 

40                              But here what happens? I will send you a Comforter. He will reprove the world.  How? Reprove! Reprove of sin, righteousness, judgment’! These three things He will do. Today your preachers, are they preaching those three things? I challenge again. Big, big doctors and big, big philosophers, come on! This is not gospel. This is not betel leaf, beedi, betel nut gospel. “Don’t go to cinema!” Go to cinema! Do you smoke beedies4? Smoke to your desire! That is not the gospel. 

41                              Today what do the people say? “Oh, he has become spoilt.” Today, when man is young -  you have become old, your boy has energy, but what do you go and tell him? “Don’t go to cinema.” He will jump over the wall and go. I told my children, “Don't go for pictures.” They will ask for money. “Daddy I am studying. I want two hundred Rupees.” Thinking that the boy is studying I will send. He is aware of all cinemas. When do we come to know of it? Now only it comes to be known. Suppose I talk about a cinema - “Oh I have seen that, I have seen this.” - “Dey! Where did you see?” - “Ho, daily we used to see films only!” - “Then what about the money?” - “That, we will use the money that is sent for fees.” - “How many films?” - “We will surely see one film a week.” When I used to ask they will say: “Daddy, we are studying well.” If this is so, is it only my son? All are like that only. Everybody has feelings. What does the other say? What will he do with the feelings? It will go and burst somewhere. It is like a steam. It will go and butt somewhere. Allow it to butt, otherwise you are lost! Why? He will come and butt you. 

42                              So a young man with energy - if I tell my children, they will have a smile. ‘What is this smile boy?’ I didn’t understand this. Now only I understand that. All the films that he had seen - they haven't missed one film. But they passed the exams. Then when God dealt with them, they came. 

43                              “Don’t use beeda!” Bible says that whatsoever entereth into your mouth does not defile you! (Matthew 15:17-18) Nothing going inside your mouth will defile you. What do you say? What do you say? “Don’t put this, don’t put that!” Try and see! Tomorrow you yourself will give it up. I am one who has eaten meat well. For me now - vegetarian diet is wonderful for me. I had heart pain, I had piles trouble and I had bleeding piles, then I started eating vegetarian diet, I don't know where my piles went, where my heart attack went. I run today, I take exercise today, my leg is very strong today. 

44                              That day I met a man - “What would be your age now, sir?” - “What would it be? Would you be forty?” - “You ignorant one! I am sixty five?” - “No, never! You must be only forty!” Because he touched my leg - “I have not seen a leg like this anywhere, sir! It is like iron!” So today, every man - there is an energy. If you have energy, you will have to keep on going somewhere. 

45                              My grand children come. If the children are energetic, what about the grand children? There is one called Edna, she will come: “What grandpa?” She will go like this, come like this, go like this. “Sit in one place girl!” She will sit and get up and again go there. That we can't make her stop. And the three other children, go on round, they won't keep quiet. If you go and tell him don’t smoke Beedi, or don’t smoke that? He will try smoking something. When I was small, I wanted to smoke. I cut the palmyrrah root and smoked. Then slowly I took cigar. I just fainted. With that I left off smoking. Once only I touched cigar. I went to some world! Then after that I was alright. I never touched that. Then my energy went for sports. So the energy was wasted there. Now my energy is going towards Jesus. 

46                              People say, “What sir, it seems you are telling that you are God?” - “Did I tell you?” If I have told anybody, come and ask him if I had told him!

47                              One day, one brother came after thirty five years leprosy. I prayed and he was healed. He comes and sits in front of the house. Wherever I go for meetings he will be there earlier. Because he was a leper. And you know what he will say?  “O, visible God!” - “You go, you go to your house.” - “You are my God.” That one fellow - somebody is looking - “Oh, Bro. Lawrie is telling as God.” 

48                              You go to Andhra - many of my friends have come from Andhra. They will touch my feet and make obeisance. What can I do about that? That's our culture in India. And that man - “What? Is Lawrie God?” At the same time you get angry - “What, Lawrie is God?” But if a thief or a robber says, 'Lawrie is plundering money', do you get angry? For that you say, 'May be! It might be, it might be'. You are able to say 'May be' for this, but for that you are not able to say, 'It will not be'. If that is so, when he says, 'He is God', you also say, 'It may be'. You say 'No' for that, but when one says as ‘Thief’, you say, 'Yes yes'. One, you must tell that he is a rogue and he is not God. When he says, 'He is a thief', you say 'Yes, yes', but when this one says, 'He is a good man', you say, 'How can that be?' So then, when that fellow calls me as a ‘thief’, why can't you question it, 'How can that be'? Because you are a rogue yourself, so you want a good man to be spoilt like that. But if you have a revelation, you will know who is inside, you will control your mouth.

49                              Every word you speak, will be judged one day. Because God told me, He will judge in-front of me. I believe that I will be before you. These words - God will say, “Where did he steal?” What will you say then? “Oh, that fellow said, this fellow said, that fellow said.” Then He will tell to bring that fellow also along. Then you will say, ‘ba, ba, ba’. 

50                              Brother, you can't simply spoil a man's name. Because: Truth will win one day. I know I am going to win. I am winning already! Our victory has started! From today, we are going to be one and this ministry will go round the whole world! And one day, it'll become a big mountain and spread all over the world!  That stone, it is not touched by human hands. 

51                              You come to Isaiah - Isaiah 52. I will tell you today what the gospel is: Isaiah 52, verse five onwards. Read:

5               Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? They that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed. 

-- The name of God is blasphemed in our country. They don't know who Jesus is. I am not

come here for conversion. If you are a Hindu, if you receive me, you have got something in you. If you hate me, you have got some evil in you. 

52                              Today, in India we are not free in religions. We are made as slaves of religions. Many people can't come to the meetings. Why? They are controlled by the pastors and religious leaders. Because, they are afraid they will come here. But you have boldly come. God will bless you and your family. Even though you have persecution, God's blessing will be on you. 

53                              Verse six! Now listen to it very carefully. 

6               Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. 

-- The Lord's name is blasphemed. So we know Jesus is the name you are fond of. It is

blasphemed already. 

54                              But in the sixth verse, 

          6   Therefore my people shall know my name: 

-- Therefore my people shall know my name. There is a day coming when they will know the

true name of God. 

therefore they shall know in that day 

-- In that day! - This day! That day is ‘this day’!!  that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. 

-- That I am He. 

that I am he that doth speak: 

--  ‘It is not that person that is speaking! It is I who doth speak!’ In that day they will know,

because God is speaking. The Spirit of truth is speaking. That is what they will think it seems. 

55                              Then next verse - next line! 

behold, it is I. 

-- Behold!  What is the meaning of behold? Look! ‘Look! That is only Me!!’ ‘Behold!’ Behold, it is I. It is not speaking through somebody, it is I. 

56                              Then, seventh verse. 

7               How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! 

-- Thy God reigneth!  That is the gospel! That ‘Be ye saved, be ye saved’ is all gone. “Iyyoh! Soothsaying.” ‘Oh, woman wearing a red saree!’ Hindus will tell better than this! Have you ever been to a Hindu temple? Have you seen Hindu gatherings? Devils know better than that. 

57                              There was a devil possessed girl. I was coming from home to pray for that girl. Put that in a car and then - sent her in the car. And I am coming. It is about fifty miles. That devil possessed girl is telling everybody - “Lawrie is getting into the bus fifty miles away.” She was more clever than your preachers! And then she said, “Now he is taking sharbath5 in Thuckalay. He is talking to his friends.” Then she is going on telling. “Now he is getting into the car. He is coming to Nagercoil. He has got down near the clock tower. He has gone to the hotel to eat something.” Then - “He is coming by a taxi. Oh, he is only ten feet away. Oh, here he has come.” Just as she said, “Here he is”, I reach there! My wife is telling,

“Did you take sherbet in that place?” - “Yes.” - “Did you get into the bus at that place? Oh, how amazing it is?! Is she not much more clever than all these good for nothing preachers?” For five paisa, for a dhosai they sell God; but the big speech: “Brother Lawrie, you have fallen...” Saying that Bro. Lawrie has fallen, he only falls!

58                              One man arranged a meeting. “Brother, God must lift and raise you. We are praying for that.” The next day, “Ayyah! These pastors come and beat me! My job is gone, Ayyah! So it is wrong that I invited you. Please leave me off.” Who has fallen? Who is burning? You will burn! 

59                              But here, what is the gospel today? The prophet is seeing the evangelists. ‘See the feet of them which publisheth peace. Thy God reigneth.’ Oh Zion! Our God lives! Rules! That is the gospel today. We are preaching that gospel today. 

60                              Then, 8th verse. 

8               Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: 

-- We are singing together. 

for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion. 

-- Face to face - Eye to eye they shall see! The Tamil translation says: ‘They will see with

their eyes’. They have changed in Tamil. Read in English!

for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion. 

-- Then, what is Zion? Judah tribe is Zion. Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel. 

61                              If you see the tabernacle chart, Judah is in the East. So Judah people are all in India. So these Judah people - He is making the Zion. Jesus came for the lost tribes of Israel. We have come for the tribe of Judah. All of the Judah people will hear the voice of the King and come. And they will go on preaching the gospel. 

62                              So what does the prophet say? See the verse! Now the gospel is not everybody's gospel. Till Shiloh comes, the sceptre will not leave Judah. 

63                              So for two thousand years, the sceptre was with Judah. But from Moon-landing day, you can see all the kings have laid down their crowns. Show me one king with power today. On the Moon-landing day, after that, there is no king. Even Queen Elizabeth is only a puppet queen - rubber stamp queen. But Thatcher is the ruler. No kings will be there. Why? Because this is the day when the Lord is going to deliver His people. 

64                              So it is not whether you are a Hindu or a Muslim or Christian, if you are a tribe of Judah, you will be waiting for that King. Jesus comes to gather His tribe. Why? Then only they will be fighting. 

65                              So, then nine!

9               Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the LORD hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem. 

-- So this is the time of comfort for us! 

66                              We must be very happy! Leave alone the people who go away! But where you are? What are you going to do? Don't you feel this message is true? How long you are going to see that the world is going to be ruined? When the violence comes, when the violence is coming, everywhere violence, God has to interfere! 

67                              Today, God has come down to interfere! So let us be happy and rejoice!! I am not God! I worship God! But, I am a messenger of God! I am telling you, God has come to interfere!! So we must be happy. Why? Our time has come. God has come to defend His people. Why? All those make atomic bombs, they were created by God. So the Creator has come. So what can bombs do? Because the Creator is with us, then what can bombs do? Because He has come to establish the Holy of Holies, and we are in Him, anybody going into the Holy of Holies, falls down dead. 

68                              Today we are in Him in Holy of Holies. Let the whole world come to attack us, see whether they will not fall down dead. Today I warn you! We are now in the sanctuary of God. So make you ready to get in. Are you inside or outside? I am not asking whether you are a good preacher or not. Are you inside Him or outside? ...(Side change.)

69                              Now listen - Eleven.

11 Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing;  -- People of God don't touch any unclean thing. 

go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD. 

-- Now we are bearing the vessels of God. Be clean. Lead a clean life! 

70                              Now what should you do? Are you going to preach? I warn the preachers, who have their own way, you are out. But today, I am preaching for those who are inside. Others get out. Because there is no use, you can't understand this message. 

71                              Now, twelve!

         12 For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: 

-- He is telling the people, “Don't be in a hurry to go forward.” 

72                              Today people say, “Bro. Lawrie is very slow. Oh, I am going to preach. Oh, I have got such a power and this power. I have got some people and I am an angel of God.” You go. But the people inside, they will never go before. That's why the prophet tells, “Don't go with haste.”

nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; 

-- “Don't go by flight - don't run; the Lord will go before you.” He goes before us! The Lord

is going before us! Who are you to go before Him?! Don’t go before Him! Come behind! 

73                              The Lord will go before you. It is not according to your desire. If He says to go slow, go slow. If He goes fast, you go fast. If you have great speed, just leave Him and go! You may be a great man, but you are not inside; get away! You have your own work. But there is only one work here: The Lord will go before you! 

and the God of Israel will be your rereward. 

-- ‘He will be your reward’. Who is the God of Israel? The Lord God is the God of Israel. 

74                              Then, He is telling about the one. Thirteen!

         13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, 

-- He is telling - “Bro. Lawrie has no prudence.” But He says that I have prudence. But you,

you say that I have no prudence. ‘He will deal prudently’, 

he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 

-- He will be exalted and extolled. 

75                              So you must understand: Comforter came, and on the Pentecost day, it was divided on all the people. Many people had got it. They started preaching, healing the sick, and they all died. Did Jesus come for that? Did He come make everybody die? Everybody died miserable death. Is that the Christian religion? Is there no hope for Christians? Are the Christians meant only for getting beatings? Hmmm? See, who gives the beating! My God has come to beat!

76                              Now, two thousand years of misery. All the people were martyred. Who martyred? Who killed? Our Christians only killed! Christian killed Christian. Now see, John the baptist went and told Herod, “You need not have your brother's wife.” (Mark 6:17-28) For that, Herodias' daughter comes and dances. So Herod: “I will give you anything.” And the mother said: “Give the head of John the Baptist!”

In the same way, Protestants are dancing before Catholics Herod. What in that? ‘We both are one and the same.’ Yes you are one and the same! But whose head goes? John the baptist's head. In her dance it was John the Baptist’s head that was severed.

77                              Today, they are dancing and telling, “Brother Lawrie is a thief.” I am really a thief; but not a thief who steals money - Gold! Which gold? Gold that is faith life! Those who have faith and trust on God, I came to steal those people. 

78                              And what does He say here? When the people are thinking they have the Holy Ghost, what happened there? Everybody died as martyrs, killed by the Catholics - Roman Catholic church. They were put to the beasts. And many saints of God cried. Burnt, lions ate them! Not one, two, or three - millions and millions and millions! Did they die simply? They had one faith. “There is coming one at whose voice they will get their body back.” Time is coming when men shall hear the voice of the Son of God. A time will come when they shall hear the voice of the Son of God. (John 5:25) Then they will rise. There is a

time coming. And that is now! 

79                              So today, my dear friends, in this day, all these two thousand years, the full truth did not come. It was only everlasting life. 

80                              Another thing I want to tell you. Isaiah says! (Isaiah 9:6)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 

-- Unto us a child is born; unto us a son is given. His name shall be Father - everlasting Father! For an age He is the Father. What is the meaning of that? The son has to declare the Father. Otherwise you can never know the Father. 

81                              Now I am going to tell you what that new name is. Now my name is Lawrie. Why? My father gave. That's my own name. But my father's name is Rasiah. So I put 'Rasiah Paulaseer Lawrie'. I am telling you, “I am come in my father's name.” So my first name begins in Rasiah. When my child is born, I gave my name Lawrie to him. I didn't give my Rasiah's name. So he got a name - Evu Lawrie. So Evu Lawrie is.... My son can say, “I am coming in Lawrie's name; I am coming in my father's name.” So if you know my son's name, is it difficult for you to know the father's name? They will say 'Lawrie'. Because he carries my name. He has a son. He will put his name Evu. He will omit my name. That's the human habit. 

82                              So Jesus said, “I am come in my Father's name.” (John 5:43) Who is the Father? Son of God is the Father. Today the church is blind. When said 'Father', they somehow seem to think that it is the unseen God. He wanted to reveal the Father - unseen God. So Christ Jesus came down and called, that there is a Father. So, He looked up: “Father!” Then He looks up. The earth is round! If one says ‘Father’ from here, he will tell in this direction. The one on the other side says ‘father’ towards the lower side. The one who says 'father' from this side, looks to this side. So where is the Father? Everything is round! What do we say? We say that he is here only! In America they will say - look down and say, “Father is there.” That is why what He did was, “Father! You always hear my prayer.” (John 11:41) Saying so, He didn’t say ‘Father raise Lazarus’. - “Lazarus, come forth!” Then who is the Father? He is praying towards there, and He Himself calls! 

83                              For that, then Philip - “For us, we must see the father. Please show us Him.” (John 14:8) He gets really angry. “Hey, that is for them! They can have two gods or three gods. Dey! You are with me all these days and you don’t know, who the Father is?” - “No sir! Show us. I am desirous to see.” - “Dey, he that hath seen Me has seen the Father! Father and I are the same!!” Hallelujah! Hallelujah!! Is this fellow a fool or the Christian of nowadays a fool?

84                              Then Philip says: “Enough, I asked in ignorance. I somehow thought that He is hanging somewhere in the sky; I didn’t know that You are our Father.” So He was revealing the Father. So He was revealing the Father's name. When the sacrifice came, Christ Jesus divided like this. He took a body. You see that? Christ Jesus.... (Bro. Lawrie points to the diagram). 

85                              See that. Paul has written Let this mind be on you which was in Christ Jesus. Philippians 2:5.

5               Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 

6               Who, being in the form of God, 

-- “Who, being in the form of God!” Christ Jesus was in the form of God. He is that form! thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 

-- He was equal to God, but He didn't think it robbery. He didn't say, “This is mine, I can't

leave it.” 

7               But made himself of no reputation, 

-- Emptied Himself. Christ Jesus emptied Jesus. 

86                              Christ Jesus is emptying ‘Jesus’. Put it in another vessel. That is Jesus - Mary's son. Then the name is Jesus. Outside Jesus, inside also Jesus. If that was emptied,.... Christ is the Son of David. So He has to come down to the earth again. Two thousand years later He has to come down. So this lamb dies for Son of David, which is Christ. So when He dies for Christ, here, Jesus goes there and Christ comes here. Death comes here, life goes there. Eternal life comes here and death comes here. Sickness goes here, health comes there. And overcoming death comes there, dying comes here. Son of David position comes here, Lord God position goes there. (Bro. Lawrie shows 'here', 'there' by actions.)

87                              So, He died. And that seed was put into the ground. And then it brought many fruit in the gentile world. But life came to us. In Him - everybody in Christ Jesus got life. That's why He says, “You won't see me again.” What does this fellow say? “He will come, He will come.” To fry*- He will fry and cook you well. He has told: “You will not see My again, till you say, blessed is He that cometh in the name of the Lord.” (Matthew 23:39) Because that life is in that Man. Christ Jesus is that life. 

88                              So, in the message, when the - For Two thousand years, part by part the Holy Ghost was given. When the seven church ages were over, it says in the Bible: “Behold, I stand on the air” - it doesn't say. “I stand at the door and knock.” Jesus is knocking at the door. 

89                              My dear friends, my voice knocks at your door! If you are the sheep of God, you will hear that voice! That voice will bring you! That voice is magnetic! That voice is the Father's voice! It is that pulling power! It will make you understand the truth! So: “If any man hears My voice, and I will come into Him, sup with him and he with Me. He that overcometh, they will sit in My throne as I am set in My Father's throne.” (Revelation 3:20-21) “We will all sit in one throne.” Just keep on thinking like that! 

90                              The gardener and the seed are not one and the same. The gardener puts the seed. Will you ride on the gardener’s back? “Gardener!” - Mary comes. Was she night blind or day blind? “Gardener! Where have you laid Jesus?” What does He say? “Mary.” - “Rabboni.” She didn't see that form. See that - Mark! Two thousand years they were reading the Bible. They didn't not know that Jesus took another form. See your Bible and see that. 

91                              Mark 16, verse eleven! 

11       And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.  12    After that he appeared in another form 

-- ‘He appeared in another form.’ He appeared in another form. You say that that lamb rose

again - that lamb took our sins. 

92                              Today, if you take that Lamb, we have no sin. Why? One is finished! My sin must have been taken away. So today, I cannot die. That full revelation, that secret, God has to come down and give! Not in the sky. You are not a harlot! You are not a prostitute. He didn’t say, “I will stand outside, you run away and come. I will give you fifty rupees, you come and enjoy.” He didn't say - “You come to my house; I'll pay you fifty rupees. You can enjoy the life with me. I'll take home.” That's a cheap woman. If she is a bride - “My husband will come to my house. He will take Me with Him.” 

93                              What did He say in the Bible? What did Jesus say? “I go to prepare a place for you. After I prepare....” He did not say, “You go to every train and collect money.” If the husband is there, he will send money to the wife. He will send the money to your house. You have no husband! You are a vagabond! So you have to go on collecting money: 'I am having orphanages, this and that'. My husband sends the money to my house. He doesn't allow me to cry one minute. I have not cried even one day sir!

94                              One day, my wife and I, there was a fight. I had never bought a saree for her. “What husband are you? Have you ever bought a saree for me?” I told her, “Ask God.” She went and cried. She likes a red saree. In the morning a person brings a red saree, saying, “I had a vision, God told me to go and give this to you.” Tears are coming!

95                              One day - I like this palmyrrah juice. But God told me not to ask anybody. The thought of palmyrrah juice made me desire it. So I told my aunty, “Give me two anas, I will go and buy some palmyrrah juice and come.” I am returning after drinking the palmyrrah juice, there stands a lady in-front of the house keeping one pot of palmyrrah juice. God told her, “You go and give this juice to Lawrie and tell him, that he can trust Him even for this palmyrrah juice.” I cried. From that day, I never asked any money. 

96                              Today, what is the literature? “No money for a loudspeaker, send it.” “Oh, I have no money for....” If you don't have money, go and knock your head somewhere! For that you are not told to take alms! Our God is not a beggar's God. Our God is the children of God's God! Why do we call Him ‘My God’? God who is of our kind! ‘Kind’ means God who is Man! So we are calling Him: ‘My God! My God’!! 

97                              What did Jesus say to Mary Magdalene? “I go to My God and your God.” (John 20:17) That 'My God' will give you everything. Don't be deceived by these beggars. Get away from that. You go trusting God. See that He guides you. Why God doesn't guide you? Because you don't trust Him fully. So I will continue with this. 

98                              Let us pray. Let our eyes be closed. I am sorry I am a bit late. Let us all bow our heads and be in prayer. Think seriously and decide for you today. (The song “Where do you go, forgetting Jesus who is calling you” is played by the Orchestra.) The Lord Jesus is calling you today. This is a great message. This will give you glory. This will make you overcome death. 

99                              He didn't die just for a joke. He died for you. He died for your sins. He died for you to overcome death. He wants to show you how much He loves you. Won't you follow Him fully for that love? All your sickness can go! You open your hearts and confess your sins. Surrender your life fully. Why are you double-minded? Why can't you follow God fully? Don't you hear the voice of God knocking at the door?! He calls you! He calls you to fully serve Him! Don't you hear His voice?! There is no time left any more! Our God is reigning! 

100                          All is vanity. Why do you fall into this world? If you love this world and the things of this world, the love of the Father is not in you! Don't touch the things of this world. That cannot save you! Look to God! God calls you! God calls you for life! 

101                          Let us pray. All of those who love God, all those who want to follow Him, not to be just backboneless, stand erect for God, I am going to pray for you. Will you get up in your seats? Open your heart widely for God. Every backslider, everybody not having full love for God, turn to God today! There is no more time to be fooling about with God. You see, a great darkness is going to come. That is already coming! But God's people are going to shine forth like sun. Then you have no time! Your money cannot save you. Your home cannot save you. Your groups cannot save you. You will be lost. Run for life! 

102                          Let us pray. Every eye closed. In the name of the Lord Jesus, in the new name you have revealed to us, I command every sickness to get out of these bodies. Let the power of God fall on the people. Let Thy healing take place. Let their limbs grow. Let every incurable disease go now. Heal! Heal!! Fill them with the power of God! Thank you Jesus. 

-- Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie

November 30, 1983

Madras - Periyar Thidal

 

1   Anas - Till the beginning of the 1960's an ‘ana’ was equal to six paise. A paisa was 1/96 of an Indian rupee. A new system was introduced with the rupee having hundred paise later.

2   Dhosai, idli - Indian dishes made from rice flour.

3   Korangani goat - A goat specially dedicated and fattened, to be offered as a sacrifice in the Korangani temple.

4   Beedi - A smoking roll made from tobacco leaves. 5 Sharbath - A lemonade.

PARABLES

1                                  Hebrews 1st chapter, first three verses. Joel read. 

1               God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 

2               Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 

3               Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 

2                                  Praise be to the name of the Lord Jesus. You know, in these days, everybody wants to be a personality. If you go to Western countries, they'll say, “Be somebody, don't be nobody.” If I were to follow somebody, I'll do what he said. If I am doing what another man says, I am losing my personality. 

3                                  Now today, every man wants to enslave somebody. And some people become a slave.

But others retain their personality. But Paul says, “I don't live any more, Christ liveth in me.” (Galatians 2:20) What happened to Paul? Paul died, Christ lived. Because he was doing only the will of Christ. That means, Paul's soul was not there, it was the soul of Christ which was leading him. That's a great truth. If a man is selfless, he is a soulless man. If he has some self, then only he has a soul. So this is something great. 

4                                  Can you trust another man to follow him? Today there is a shout - “Whom are you following?” Everybody will say: “I am following so and so, so and so, so and so; I am following that Bishop; I am following that Church.” Are you sure that particular thing can give you life? I am following the word of God. I don't live any more. The word of God lives in me. His will is my will. I don't have a will of my own. Then what happens? 

5                                  Today many people don't read the Bible. They don't do what the Bible says. How can you say you are a Christian? You are a 'name sake Christian'. But in the heart you are a heathen, because you don't follow what He said. To understand the Bible, your eyes must be open. That's why the Bible says, “Except you are born again, you cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) We can talk about the kingdom of God, but you can't see the kingdom of God. In the same way, if you follow what the Bible says,.... 

6                                  Who wrote the Bible? It is not the church. They might have printed it. But who wrote the Bible? Who spoke the Bible? The Lord God spoke the Bible, and the prophets uttered, and they wrote it. So what is written in the Bible is not the prophet's books. It is the words of the ‘Son of God’. God was speaking through the Son of God. 

7                                  So if you follow that Bible, you are not living, but that Person who spoke the word is living in you. That is why today, if you follow what the Bible says, you have got a terrible opposition. If you have no opposition, you are not following the Bible. You are following some church. 

8                                  Why as one man I am fighting against the whole system? Because I know who I am. And I know who is going to win. I know the end of these churches. But for the people here I tell you: The Lord has come, so go on peacefully and propagating the truth. Because, the truth is revealed today. 

9                                  There are many parables which the Lord spoke to the people. For people in Christ Jesus, He spoke parables - taught them privately. Outsiders, they couldn't understand. But God said: “When the Spirit of Truth is come...” That is not Comforter! “When the Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you unto all truth.” (John 16:13) So till He comes, Bible cannot be a finished book. God has written everything in the Bible. Jesus came and revealed the whole thing in the Bible. But the secrets are not revealed, so still it is a closed book. 

10                              All glory to God! The Moon-landing day experience is my experience, like Moses had an experience in the bush. God told Moses to lead the people. For me, as I was in Florida - the voice of God from a source invisible from the skies came - “The present day prophet for this age, go and see.” I thought, “Billy Graham was the prophet; Oral Roberts may be the prophet. Osborne may be the prophet; or some Catholic Bishop is - Pope is the prophet.” But, who is that prophet? “Give me the address.” The voice said, “It is William Branham. He will tell about you. Go and see him.” That was a terrible thing. Because I was seeking for a great man in some other place. He was a white man, was a simple man. 

11                              When I went and saw him, God had already told him that a man is come from India, to follow his ministry. So we both talked. Took a photograph. He told me before his death, “You will come after seven years. The Western people won't believe you. So take this photograph with you.” And gave me a copy. “This will be useful for you later.” And when I studied his books - not the present day publications, they are hiding all the things. The best book they don't show. But when you read that, he tells about the blessings coming. 

12                              So when you read the Bible, this Spirit of truth came, He revealed the Bible. So I am not a great man, the Spirit of truth is the greatest one. That name - ‘Spirit of truth’ means, whatever He tells is truth. So these revelations are not my revelation, it is the truth. This will give you faith. You can say, “I'll go flying.” This message will make you gloried. After glorification, then you will repent and cry, but there will be no hope. 

13                              As in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of Man. (Luke 17:26) In Noah's days, he was building a house. In these days, we have a house called Christ Jesus' house. Are you inside or outside? Today people want to get a big name. I live to make God a name. All what He told me, I want to do it, even if the whole world opposes. 

14                              So when He told these parables, it is all for the harvest days. One day He said, “A man went far away, and gave talents for his people - five, ten, like that.” That we know. But the one fellow is telling like this: “I knew thee, that thou art a hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed.” (Matthew 25:24) 

15                              What is the meaning of this? This is the parable about the two periods. Jesus sowed, Son of David is harvesting. So this fellow who is true to the sower: “Are you thinking of reaping where thou hast not sown? I know you are a hard man.” I am glad that that fellow had the revelation that ‘He’ is a hard man. But he did not know, the Sower and the Harvester are the same Person. So, the other people knew. This is the present day Christians who are true to the Sower, but not to the Harvester. Even we must feel, the owner is the sower and the owner is the harvester. But this fellow did not have that revelation. 

16                              Then there are many parables He said. Turn to Mark 4:11. 

11           And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: 

-- “Now unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God.” but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: 

12           That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. 

17                              They have the Bible, they read it, they don't understand.....  “Whom do you ask to shut up? Why?” - “You should not tell that.” - “Ha, ha, God came and told me in the evening!”

18                              Now Bishop Kurilos - only today I am hearing his testimony. Before him knowing us, God has known him. So you must understand one thing: We were in Christ before the foundation of the world. You people who are here gathered today, can you believe that you were with me before the foundation of the world? “What man, your father was here, you are only sixty five?” 

19                              God knows His work from beginning to end. He looks like this. He knows all who have come here. He knows who Son of David is. So knowing that, then He has chosen Him before the foundation of the world. That is why, we are in the Lord God before the foundation of the world. We have to come down, because Jesus had to come and die, so we had to die with Him. So we are not people of this world. So God gives us open revelation. Others won't get it. 

20                              So I'll explain to you some parables, as the Lord explained to me. Matthew 13:31. Read:

31           Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 

32           Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof. 

21                              What is the secret there? A seed is put in. Then it grows into a big tree. Then it gives the fruit. But who is sitting on that? Who? ‘Birds of the air’. So these churches are like mustard seeds. When it grows, God's people are not there, but ‘birds of the air’ - ‘Children of the devil’! So the Lord says, In the beginning it is alright, then election comes, all the devilish people sit there.” Where will the God's people be? They, with caution come out! That is why, Kurilos and Bro. Swamikkan, and Jothipackiam slowly came away. 

22                              So in simple words He tells, “In the last days, there won't be real children of God, but they will all be 'fowls of the air'.”  Let us not go above that, let us leave it there.

23                              Then secondly! 

33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened. 

-- What is the meaning? 

24                              You know, the leaven cannot be used for sacrifice. This is called ‘leavened teaching’. So the three measures of flour - What is the meaning of ‘three measures of flour’? It is not three kinds of flour: Three measures of the same flour. 'Father, Son and Holy Ghost flour' - The three things are the same flour - same flour! But what did the woman do - what did the church do? It allowed it to leaven. Leavened doctrine! 

25                              Then what happens? The whole thing is leavened. So the present church, the teaching of 'Father, Son and Holy Ghost' is a leavened doctrine. Who did this ‘leavening’? It is the leavened church! She will always want some toddy or brandy to make it leavened. What is needed to leaven? Toddy! Those are the drunkards and not Bro. Lawrie.

26                              So, thirdly! Read thirty five. (Side change.)

35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. 

-- So, “I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.” 

27                              Now see, I want to come home. I'll tell some friend, “You go and tell my wife, I'll be coming tomorrow.” I won't tell him all what I am going to say. You go and tell: “Your husband is coming tomorrow.” He'll go and tell, “Your husband is coming tomorrow.” That's all, finished. I won't tell him, “Tell her, I'll go and kiss her tomorrow.” Then this fellow will be going and doing that. It is not that! Certain things I'll keep secret. 

28                              When I go there, my wife will be ready to meet me, she'll take me and then I'll talk to her privately. A girl and a boy loves each other, they know all the art of secret. 

29                              So Jesus paid the price for the bride! Second time He comes as a thief to reveal the secret. And He tells all the secrets for the Bride; the secret how to be glorified! This is kept secret before the foundation of the world. Prophet is a servant. But the ‘Word’ is not a servant. Word is the Master. The servant, God did not reveal secret things to the prophets - all the things. That is why, the seven thunders was not revealed. That should be revealed by the Bridegroom Himself. But people today, every Dick, Tom and Harry has thunders. 

30                              But this message is thunder message, will give you rapturing faith. When we go in glory, then see what is going to happen. Then only they'll say, they get a revelation, “Lord!”  Now, names like 'Robber', 'Thief', 'Drunkard', and all these will come. Then the revelation comes.  

31                              In that day many shall come! (Matthew 7:21-23) Listen! See, the Pentecostals say - ‘He will come in the skies’, it seems! Is he going to the skies and asking? In that day, will he go in the skies and ask? Are these fellow not going to the pit! In that day many will come - “Lord, You ate with us, we prophesied in Your name, we cast out devils in Your name, we told 'red saree, green saree...' in Your name. You ate with us. Don’t you now remember? I was standing there, when You were shouting in our street corner.” Now He says, He doesn't know. If there is a favourable time for the elephant, there is also a favourable time coming for the cat! So what does He say? “I never knew you; I don't know you.” 

32                              Do you think, God will tell a lie? This, He is telling a lie only. He says, “I never know you.” If God tells to you a lie, that is not sin. God can tell lies for you. Why? “To the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure.” How will God appear? Please read. 

33                              See how God shows Himself! Psalm 18, verses 24, 25. That is God’s character!

24           Therefore hath the LORD recompensed me according to my righteousness, according to the cleanness of my hands in his eyesight. 

25           With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful;  --  With the merciful He surely is merciful!

with an upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright; 

26           With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward. 

34                              Will He show Himself pure to the froward? He will show Himself as froward. “What sir, the Lord is changing?” For you, He has to show as changing only, if you are not true. 

35                              Then, Matthew 13:41. Forty and forty one.

40           As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 

41           The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 

42           And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 

-- There will be crying and - not biting of teeth, but gnashing of teeth! Not teeth biting

but gnashing of teeth! That is the truth. That's the tribulation. 

36                              Then:

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. 

37                              Now all these tares are being bound already and sealed in the name of denominations. When they go into tribulation, we are shining forth like sun. Hallelujah! We will shine forth as sun. 

38                              “Behold the lilies of the field.” Why should we look to that? It doesn't sow or reap. But Solomon himself, he was not attiring like that. Solomon had to stitch a shirt and wear. But the lily, the shirt is coming from inside! So we have a garment coming inside! Hallelujah! Have you got that garment of righteousness? When the Lord brings the power of God on us, within a twinkling of an eye, we shall all be changed in the beautiful attire. It is coming from inside. It is already inside. Allow it to grow! Ask your ‘self’ to go and that to grow. 

39                              Then - ‘Again the kingdom of God’:

44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. 

40                              This is not a lottery ticket. When a man findeth treasure - first of all he finds the treasure, then he hides it. We don’t hide it, but tell everybody. When he finds, first of all, he hideth. First thing he will do is, sell everything he has and buys that field. He buys that field. 

41                              Have you bought that treasure field? If you have everything in this world, you cannot buy that. We did that long ago. And we have found out that treasure and we are possessing that treasure today. That's why we have come as a family. 

42                              Just like Noah's three sons, I got three sons. I am warning you people. And what do the Bible say? Noah was not asked to go and get the animals. If you see Genesis - “These animals will come to you.” I can see thousands of Hindus coming. But I don't see the Christians coming. I see people like beasts - animals, they are coming. What property will a beast and animals have? Live day-to-day life. It is not going to live for generation. They will die, but these animals will live. Have you bought that treasure? 

43                              Secondly: 

45           Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: 

46           Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it. 

-- First of all, he is seeking good pearls. He is not seeking money. The present day Christians are seeking money. 

44                              I am pearl merchant, seeking pearls. One day I found a pearl of great price. After finding the pearl, I can't buy, unless I sell all my pearls. All my thinking, all my doctrines, every pearls, I threw it - sold it and bought that pearl! And today, I have that pearl. 

45                              Turn to John 16, verses 8, 9 and 10. “When the Comforter....” When you want to buy something, we pay an advance. Then after sometime we pay the full amount and bring the thing. So when the Lord gave the Comforter, that's an advance - earnest money. That is called earnest money. You can't own the property. The full amount must be paid. But when the Comforter comes, it will make us ready for coming to us - make the property come to us, it is making ready.  

46                              John 16:8.

8    And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 

-- He will reprove the world of sin, of righteousness, of judgment. Do the Christians

preach that today? “If you don't believe in Jesus, you are in sin.”  Believe what? If you don't believe that He is the sacrifice, that He took your sins away, you will be still in sin. Today what do the Christians say? Jesus sacrifice died and rose again. 

47                              Isaac was a type of Jesus. Jesus said, “Abraham rejoiced to see My day. He saw it and was glad.” (John 8:56) Now Jesus, if He was Abraham's son, do you think he would have been happy because of His death? No! He saw One in his own bowels coming to life. Then he started jumping. That is the teaching he taught Isaac. He told Isaac, “Every man has to die....” But He gave a promise to Isaac - “Abraham, I'll bless your seed.” Isaac was not married. But because of the promise, Isaac cannot die till he gets the seed. So God told him, “Go and kill him.” Now he is in a problem. God has promised that his seed will live. This only son has no wife. So he can't die before the seed comes. But He tells, “Go and kill him.” 

48                              Abraham was not like our people. He is the ‘father of faith’. He can never believe that God will tell a lie. But God wants to test him, whether he is a true believer, whether He could trust him. He said, “Kill your son.” Isaac also was a wonderful child. He was thirty years old, when he was to be killed. So Isaac was a big boy. He willingly goes to sacrifice. “Father, there is a fire here, there is everything ready, where is the lamb?” - “The Lord will see to it.”  (Genesis 22:7-18) The knowledge that he has - the knowledge that Isaac has, these Christians don’t have. “Where is the lamb?” As he went, he was put there and bound. Took the knife, he didn't tell anything. Took the knife out. Then he went to kill him. “Abraham, don't kill him. Now I know you are a man who will obey me!” 

49                              Then he sees Calvary! How did the lamb come? Lamb was not in the front of him. I feel like getting glorified now! Why? When God shows calvary, one man in his line - Son of David is coming, and He has to live without death. So before He comes, the lamb comes. So when he sees the lamb of God, before He could come and when he saw Calvary, he started jumping, “Oh, my Son will live!” Then why....? (Break in recording.) Before my son could survive, there should be a lamb. 

50                              So it wasn't - Jesus wasn't the Son of David. Jesus was not a man, He was God. And why we call Him a ‘Man’ and the ‘Son of David’? Because by atonement He becomes Son of David. That is the secret hidden by God for all these ages. For that God has to give that Spirit of Truth to reveal this to the people. 

51                              Muslims believe that Jesus never died. Christians say He died and rose again. But the truth is, Jesus died and Christ rose again. The Son of David rose again. Isaac died and Isaac rose again. In sacrifice Isaac died. Isaac was, Isaac died, Isaac came to life! Son of David was there, Son of David died in Christ, Son of David rose again. So the fullness of God cannot come before that truth comes. 

52                              John 16:10.

10  Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;  -- You will see Me no more! 

53                              Today, what is the Christian talking about? “We will see Jesus again.” But it is said here, “You will see Me no more.” So what is the secret? Jesus: “The things concerning Me has an end.” (Luke 22:37) Because He took the death and gave eternal life to the Son. So what does He say here? If you believe that you are going to see Jesus, you have no righteousness of God. 

54                              Of Judgment:

         11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 

-- Who is the prince? It is not devil. 

55                              Today they make Jesus devil. The 'prince of this world' means: The coming King must be a small man at a young age. In Jesus' death He is judged already. So He is the only fit man to judge the world, because He is already judged. If He is judged, every man will be judged. Are you ready to stand before God? In Christ you can. 

56                              Then: 

12           I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 

-- I can tell many things to you, but you cannot bear it now. 

13           Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

57                              So, this message is not my message. What I heard from God, I am giving to you. 

         14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 

-- After the Spirit of truth came, ‘He shall glorify me’. Why? 

58                              What is the duty of the Son of David? To glorify Jesus. Not to glorify Himself. Do you know what these will say, after taking the glory for themselves? “Let us all be careful to give glory to God - let us.” But all the glory they take. But today, there is one God to be glorified. Let us all glorify Him. How can you glorify Him? By doing what He said. 

59                              A little while - sixteen.

16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father. 

60                              Twenty:

20           Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice:

and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy. 

61                              Twenty one:

21           A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. 

62                              Twenty two:

22           And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again,  -- I will see you again after two thousand years! 

and your heart shall rejoice,  -- Then your heart will be full of joy.  and your joy no man taketh from you.  -- No man can take away that joy from you. 

63                              For two thousand years, the people took the joy of the people by shootings, killings. But now, no man can take that joy away from you! What's the meaning? The joy which we received now, cannot be taken by killing, because we are getting immortality. 

64                              Now, twenty three:

23           And in that day 

-- In that day - in ‘this’ day! What does Jesus say? In that day! ‘This day!’ Not on that

day - ‘this’ day. 

ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 

-- Whatever it is...!

65                              Listen carefully - twenty four:

24           Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name:

-- “Till now, for two thousand years you have not asked anything in My name.” In what

name we have been asking all these days? ‘Father, Son and Holy Ghost’ is not God's name. However beautiful you may say that! Though you may say - ‘Even now in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, Amen!’, though it is said in a beautiful manner, it will not be answered. It will not go above the roof. It won't go above your roof. Even a devil is not afraid of that name. But what He says? Whatever kind of actions you may show, it will not happen. But when you say Jesus' name it went. That is only for an age. That was the name of the Father. 

66                              But now, when the spirit of Truth has come - “You have not asked in my name all these years”, but: 

ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. 

67                              Twenty six: 

26  At that day ye shall ask in my name:  --In that day you will ask in My name!

and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 

-- For that ‘moolam’1 is not necessary. Don’t they say, ‘through, through’ - through the Father, through this and through that? For that, He does not have ‘piles’. Today the church has got piles disease - piles. For everything they have to say ‘through’. But here, no 'through' after this. “And I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you.”

68                              Twenty seven: 

27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 

69                              Now I'll finish it short. 1 John 5th chapter. John was an apostle of love. God revealed something great to him. Now see, 5th chapter, 1st verse. 

1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 

70                              Those who have been before the foundation of the world, they were all born of God. If you believe that Jesus is the Christ,... Today the Christians believe, but that is wrong believing. 

71                              Jesus was not the Son of David. He was not the Son of Man. He was born without a man's power - It was God's power. So the angel went to her, “Mary, the one which is born is holy.” (Luke 1:35) Then he says, “The Lord God will give the Father's throne to him.” (Luke 1:32) Then the - Mary got shocked.  

72                              The Christians of today don’t even have the knowledge that she had. Because David's throne can come only to David's Son, in that blood line. But Mary had a child without that blood. But the angel is telling, that her Son will get the throne. Then she said,  “I know not a man.” (Luke 1:24) 

73                              Then a great revelation is there. The Lord God will give His father David’s throne - by right, to Him freely! What is the meaning of that? Lord God is God. But that is David's Son. That shook me one day. One day God gave me that revelation. Twelve o' clock in the night, I was afraid, it shook my whole being. “Lord God will give His father David's throne to Jesus.” How can Lord God be Son of David? Only through atonement. 

74                              By atonement Jesus becomes the Son of David and Son of David becomes Lord God. Death goes there, sickness goes there, weakness goes there, life comes to Son of David, eternal life comes, judgment power comes, raising dead people power comes to Him; all because of the love of God! 

75                              Then, when this truth is come, naturally Jesus is Christ. Not by birth, by atonement. If Jesus is Christ, that means you are born again. You can't be born in any other way. 

76                              Then come back. 1 John 5:2

2    By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

77                              1 John 5, fourth verse.

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 

78                              If you are born of God you will overcome the world. If you are afraid of your pastor, you have not overcome the world, you are not even born again. If you have no back bone, you are not born again, no matter how many records you may produce, how many songs you may sing, you have no salvation. You are not born again! 

79                              Bible tells, “Whatsoever is born of God, overcometh the world!” Hallelujah! Have you overcome the world today?! My brother, have you overcome the world?! Then you are born again. 

80                              Then! 

5   Who is he that overcometh the world,  -- Who is he that overcometh the world? 

but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 

-- If by atonement Jesus becomes Christ, Son of David becomes Jesus. So if you believe

this, you believe that Jesus is the Son of God. When that revelation breaks out, you have overcome the world! 

81                              Now come below to the 20th verse. 

         20 And we know that the Son of God is come, 

-- ‘We know that the Son of God is come.’ When? When He was baptised, another Spirit

is coming. What happened to His Spirit. The Son of David Spirit comes. So from the day He was baptised, He was acting like the Son of David. That's why He called Himself as Son of Man. Then He is telling all what He knew. 

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, 

-- So the Bible says, “We know that Son of God is come, and has given us an

understanding.”  What did Jesus come and give us? Understanding. Only because He came, we got the understanding.

82                              Then:

that we may know him that is true, 

-- ‘That we may know Him that is true!’ Jesus has given for us - what has the Son of God

given us? He has come and given us an understanding, to know Him that is true. Who is true? One into whom the Spirit of truth is come. To know Him that is true, 

and we are in him that is true, 

-- ‘And we are in Him that is true.’ Everybody who believed in Jesus are in Christ Jesus.

We know Him that is true and we are in Him that is true. 

even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. 

-- ‘Even in His Son Jesus Christ.’ So God is not in heaven, He has come down. 

This is the true God, and eternal life. 

-- ‘And this is the true God and eternal life.’ 

83                So get ready to be glorified. How to get ready? Like Shulamite, get yourself ready. Don't put your hands on the things of this world. They that love the things of this world, they have not the love of the Father. So keep yourself light to fly. If you are deeply rooted in this world, that will pull you down. 

84                That's why Jesus said - He came to reveal secrets. Listen carefully. “No one can kill Me; I can give My life and take it back.” (John 10:17-18) He is in the faith standard; we are in seeing and believing standard. So He had to reveal all the power we have - the power that He has for us. What did He say? “No one can kill Me; I can give my life and take it back. This commandment I had from

My Father.” He is talking like Son of David. Then He says, “Tell Me whether anybody can convict Me of Sin?” 

85                In the beginning, God created the First Born. That First-born.... Today many people can't understand this secret. You humbly go, God will reveal that to you. I am not trying to show I am a big man. I am telling you a revelation. This will happen. Somebody will be entitled to that power. Who it is, I don’t know. But I know this truth will happen. The truth will stand. But the Person fitting that, will come one day. But that will be too late for you. So you have to have a revelation. 

86                For you I am talking openly. But those outside, I can't talk like that. But what is the secret? In His foreknowledge He knows from the beginning to end. Then He knew that He had to choose somebody. So before He could create any man, before He could create a mountain or anything, before a stone or sand was formed, who was created? Somebody was created. That is called 'First born'. (Proverbs 8:22-30) And that is the greatest thing, secret He did. 

87                Then the lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. (Revelation 13:8) Why? Before He could get into that Man, HE had to take away ‘His’ self. And HE chose a man and possessed him. And through Him HE started creating. That is why Bible says, “No one can see God at any time.” (John 1:18) And what does the Lord God say? “Don't keep any gods before Me. Don’t place anybody before Me.”  Why? In front of Him is the unseen great LORD. So He is so jealous, that He will never allow anybody to come in front. 

88                Today many preachers want to go front and take that position. You are number one Lucifer. He only tried that and failed. Even Son of God won't take that position. It is for my Father - Master of Spirits. HE has to take over the whole thing. 

89                But you must understand here,... And that faith we don't have. So before God came into Him, HE planned to destroy His soul. He had no soul because He was following that will - He was following HIS will.  And HE spoke through Him, created the whole thing, and called that Son of God. But He has to reveal the unseen God. So with the power He got, nobody can kill Him. So how can He die to save a man? 

90                So He got power to give His life and take it back. So He created a body 'Jesus' and put His life there. And He could take that at any moment. That's the only Person who got power like that. That is why, when man fell, He knew, one day He'll claim them back. So when Jesus died, that Gardener planted that seed, and it became a big tree. And today it has come to harvest. For that harvest only the Lord comes down. They are people in Christ Jesus. 

91                So what did Jesus say? “My Father sanctified and sent Me.” (John 10:36) If Christ Jesus was holy, why should He be sanctified? Because He was a human being, before creation HE sanctified and came in. So this is a great secret. Because if He cannot die, those in Christ Jesus cannot die! Hallelujah!! Come on! That is why Jesus came down.  

--Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie.

December 01, 1983

Madras - Periyar Thidal

 

1          Moolam - 'Through'. Moolam is also another word for 'piles' in Tamil.

MATTHEW  24

1                                  Praise be to the name of  the Lord Jesus. You heard a great Bible study from Bible teacher Bro. Aseer. You know you could see, how little by little it was made very clear to you. Our Christians, for two thousand years are still children. You know they don't understand anything. They simply keep on talking something, like the people say, ‘Through the hat’. You go to anybody, all the things are verses written, ‘Faith, hope, charity’. They won't have one millimetre of faith. And the people talk great things about Jesus. I also was talking like that. 

2                                  The present day preachers, they run away, thinking Bro. Lawrie is antichrist. But will they stand to give the test of the Bible? And the Bible studies, Bible schools, it's a denominational study to develop their mission. I have not come here to develop my mission. I don't believe that. I believe in one thing. Somebody sent me, I must be true to Him. I don't care, you call me any name. But the judgment comes to you. 

3                                  Because according to the Bible, first you take the ten commandments: God brought the tablets with the ten commandments and Moses broke it. If man breaks the first one, He will never do the second one. God never does a thing a second time. First He brought the tablets. Moses neglected it and threw it. Then God told Moses, “You make the tablets, I'll write on it.” 

4                                  And what does the Bible say? The commandments are written in their hearts. Is it written in your hearts today? I don't say that you are saved. You are saved from what? You are saved from truth? From what were you saved? First of all, now people say, Bro. Lawrie is a fallen man. Who will call another man fallen? The man who is already fallen. 

5                                  Today many people may talk many things. But today I am challenging you: you do not know which time is today. You are right going into tribulation. And suddenly you will wake up one day, in the tribulation. All good Christians, singing Christians, you will see one day, if this ministry is true, it will be flared out in all radio and all these things, not through somebody preaching. It will be flared out in all the radio stations. Why? You need not talk - somebody need not talk through that. Because my God is the Creator of everything. He can talk through any radio. 

6                                  So today, I am not worried about radio preaching. If a man speaks the truth, he will get no place in the radio. Then what will God do? My God who created the current, He will do it, without my doing anything. 

7                                  And today, that one tablet was broken, another was made. And one tabernacle was erected and it was destroyed. That is the tabernacle of witness. Then comes the tabernacle of the congregation. That was accepted. Thirdly, one rock was beaten, the other rock God had told to speak. But Moses committed another great blunder. He beat it. God never forgave that. 

8                                  My dear friends, you must understand very carefully, otherwise you get the unpardonable sin. You can't cross the border. We know, in this generation we can overcome death. You say, “Bro. Lawrie is going to die.” If this message is true, if what God has revealed to me, not only me, all those who are with me, they will be taken up in glory. Glory to God! 

9                                  Thirdly, when a leper comes, if he is cleansed, one bird is killed. That bird is for the Lord. That will be killed in the pot of running water. A living bird is dipped in and it is sprinkled seven times, and it with shout goes free: “I am going in glory!” Hallelujah! It is going up. At the death of one bird, the other bird gets the glory. 

10                              For Christians, that one dying bird is coming to life again. Hallelujah! And that rock which was beaten is coming in glory. That broken tables of testimony, is all being repaired and go again into heaven.

11                              See, that is the way that two thousand years we have been made fools. Why? For fulfilment of the prophecies. God turns the wise into fools and fools into wise. (1 Corinthians 1:27) I am a foolish one. But today I am wise. All the two thousand years wise people, big, big doctors, writing big, big dictionaries, they are becoming fools. That is fulfilled today. 

12                              My dear friends, not only that; there are so many other things. There are types like that. Then the scapegoat. This is a very great thing. Leviticus 16th chapter. Go to your home and read. “Bro. Lawrie is an anti-Christ?” You see the anti-Christ coming and putting ties on you. He is about to be revealed. Then we won't be here. If we are here, he can't be here. But when we are removed, then we will see whether one Christian will escape. Then only gnashing - crying and gnashing of teeth. That is why I am pleading to you today, my brothers. Look sharp. The time is up. 

13                              Then again, this scapegoat, two goats are brought. This is for rulers. For them, they have to bring a goat, not a lamb. And when the goat is come, at the beginning of the entrance, the two goats are tied there and the lots are cast. And when the lot is cast, one of the goat is for the LORD - 'L', capital 'O', capital 'R', capital 'D'. That is for the unseen God. Because that has to die. Then, the one that is killed,.... Everything is a type, is wonderful. And the high priest takes the blood, goes to the East side of the tabernacle. Why? The ministry is coming in the East. Because after Jesus, the next great ministry comes from the East. 

14                              So immediately high priest, he is looking to the East, sprinkles the blood seven times. What's the meaning? Seven ages have to pass, before the coming of the Son of Man. So he is acknowledging that. And between two thousand years, this tabernacle, in the holy of holies, you can't see the living Lord standing there. So the priest will have to put lot of incense and cloud the mercy seat, so that he should not see the Form. If he sees the form he will die. So he puts the cloud and he can hear the voice of Him only. If they cannot see the form, today they talk in telephone, it seems.

15                              Two thousand years you can never see that form. You can see your own imaginations. “I will walk in streets of gold.” The desire for gold here, doesn’t leave even there. Even after wearing lot of gold here, it seems, there also they will walk on gold only. Oh what a desire: We will walk in streets of gold! You will get only dung balls.

16                              So this scapegoat, one is killed. That is: The Lord is taking the sin of the Son of David. He comes to take the sin. Seven times sprinkling the blood. The high priest should dress normally. No special dress and nobody should enter into the tabernacle for two thousand years. That is why the Lord destroyed the Jerusalem temple after Calvary. Till today, all the sacrifices have been stopped. You can't see the Lord God. 

17                              And then, after sprinkling seven times, then comes the second goat. It's a living goat. It can't die. So the high priest, he is useless you know. A fellow with itches will have to be itching. In the same way, these priests, always used to keep their hands. But what do they do - the high priests? He goes and puts his hand on this goat also. Thereby he commits the unpardonable sin. That is why he loses his position. So what does he do? He can't be priest any more. His son has to come. So as he goes there, this goat, it is not doing any atonement. It is taking the atonement with him. Atonement goes with it. Why? One goat has died, so this goat is sinless. You can't see that goat again. 

18                              “Varuvar1 - He will come, He will come.” Yes, He will come to make ‘varuval’. Today they say: “He will come, come.” They are going to see the scapegoat only. This scapegoat is going. Wherever it goes, anybody receiving that goat, they have no sin. Anybody putting sin on the goat, their sins cannot be forgiven. 

19                              You do not know, that Christians are deceived into that condemnation. Without your knowledge you are gone into condemnation. Because that is why, you have been speaking from your mouth so many nonsense which is not true. Are you Christians? The Christian world: “Bro. Lawrie is wearing ‘rudratcha2’.” If any fellow had seen, come to me! And say, “Brother, were you not wearing rudratcha, why did you remove it?” Have you not the mind to ask? But what did you say? 'Saw!'  If you say, “I saw, I saw”, where did you see? You will go in tribulation and then only you will find it. You have no forgiveness. 

20                              That is why God tells, when Jesus died, many people attacked him. That sin is not going to be punished. Why? Everybody died. But this scapegoat time, He is living. So when that condemnation comes, the Lord is coming third time, to judge everybody for the hard words spoken against Him - against the scapegoat. 

21                              That is why today, the Hindu books have written so many things. It is written there, “When that Man comes, don't put sin on him. Because taking Him into the house and giving Him food, you'll get forgiveness.” What did God say? “Behold I stand at the door and knock; if any man hears my voice and opens the door,....” He doesn't say: “I'll give Holy Ghost.” But, “I'll come and eat with you, He will sup with me.” This is the ministry now. If Hindus, they go there, their eyes are opened. “Brother!” - “What?”

22                              I went to Andhra, I went to a village. They never allowed me to walk on the ground. Put all their sarees. “Why are you doing like this folks?” - “We know who you are! You are our scapegoat. Our sins have been carried. So if we receive you, our sins go away.” Today, you go to a Christian place: “Traitor, traitor”. To whom were we treacherous? Did we practice treachery? 

23                              My dear friends, I am a pure Indian. I am not against white man, or black man, or yellow man. They are all my friends. But one thing, in India we must live happily. I don't care if you get lot of money. I am not jealous. 

24                              Today, Bro. Frank brought lot of money. And when I was in America, the white people gave cheques - lakhs.  I took that. On taking that my head started rolling. I put it down. For me, when I take it, the head spins; why does it not spin for you? Why? Why does it not spin for you? My head spins! Then I said, “You keep this.” - “This is money. Money! Money! Money!” - “Of course it is money but my head spins.”  Then they said, “You must be our leader, but you must be under us.” I should be their leader, but it seems I should be under them. I said, “I won't be your head also, I won't be under you also; I'll be only under my God. He is in me. I don't want to be under anybody. I won't allow anybody to keep anything in front of me except God.” 

25                              My God! You better try to keep another god there, I'll destroy you in the power - I'll destroy in God's power. Because, our time has come. Fourteen years - our ‘exile’ is over.  The Lord told me, “Arise and shine, your time has come.” That's why we came. This meeting was arranged by God. And today, I know many people God has touched. And today, this message, nobody can stop. This scapegoat message,... 

26                              I want you to take to one chapter. Matthew 24, 2nd verse. Read: 

2               And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 

-- Jesus prophesied that temples will be destroyed. And this made them worry.  27  Then they went to Jesus - third verse. 

3               And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately,  -- Privately! They go secretly!

saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? 

-- When shall these things be? 

and what shall be the sign of thy coming,  -- What shall be the sign of thy coming? 

and of the end of the world?  -- And of the end of the world? 

28                They were asking three questions. “When will the temple be destroyed? What is the sign of your coming? What is the end of the world?” Then Jesus explains to them what that is. 

29                Today they are talking nonsense. You may be a Bible student, but you can't talk nonsense. You know why you are teaching nonsense? Because there is a blindness on your face. Can you get any revelation by closing your eyes? Can you see anybody by closing your eyes? So there is a veil on your face. Take it away! That goes by humility. That is not with money. Like Job you have to buy it. So you go to your house, “Lord! Open my eyes. I must know the secret.”  30 So here we see, Jesus is explaining. Matthew 24:4.

          4    And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 

-- First of all what? “Take heed that no man deceive you.” It may be a big preacher. He may be a wolf in sheep skin! He must preach according to the word of God. 

31                              Simply singing songs and saying, “Be ye saved; be ye saved”, it is of no use. “Be ye saved.” (Bro. Lawrie imitates the accenting.) For how many years will they be saved? What does it mean, if after putting out the fellow who had fallen into a well, you still say, ‘Be saved; be saved’? Again you have to put him in and take him out, put him in and take him out. Like that only the Christians, they put into the well and then lift him up; put into the well and then lift him up - like this only it happens. How many times these fellows are falling into the well? Then again he lifts him up. Whenever a white man comes, he falls inside. To come on to the stage and for a photograph he falls down.

32                              So, today, we must know where we are standing. Two thousand years ago, Jesus was telling the history for two thousand years. “Take heed that no man deceive you.” Who will deceive us? Not elephants, not tigers - man! Man is your greatest enemy. These preachers are the greatest enemies. These are the Baal's priests. All these fellows should be crucified. Then only you get remedy. These are all the false preachers. 

33                              What does the Bible say? ‘Beware of false christs and false prophets.’ Who is that? Not Bro. Lawrie who is preaching the word, fellow who doesn't preach the word is the false christ. Today he only gets chances. But hereafter there is no chance. I warn you! You tell these preachers. 

34                              Because as an Indian, I love every Indian, even foreigners. But if you get money from other countries, you can keep it for yourself. I don't need even the tithes from that. But you, after receiving that, if you try to divide India with Hindus and Muslims, I am your greatest enemy!

Hallelujah! If you divide India and call me as false prophet, and if you try to divide India, I'll gather the Hindus and Muslims and beat you! There is nothing else for that.

35                              India cannot be divided. We are all one family. Whether you are a Muslim, whether you are a Christian, whether you are a Hindu, you are my brother. If you don't see eye to eye with me, I don't care. But let us not allow India to be divided by these false people. That is why I am suffering today. So if you really love this country where God has come down, the future is ours. Because the future is not for others, it is for us. So let us look sharp. 

36                              Five!

5               For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 

-- That is not now. That is not Bro. Lawrie. Before two thousand years, they will put

their name 'Christ' and say, “I am Christ.” These fools, shouldn't they read the Bible? Are now false christs coming like that? Before two thousand years they were only like this. And they deceived. 

37                              Then:

6               And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 

-- These are two thousand years ago. 

38                              Then:

7               For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 

8               All these are the beginning of sorrows. 

-- All these are beginning of sorrows - two thousand years ago. If somewhere

earthquake comes, immediately he says, “Oh, the destruction has come.” He says that the world is going to be over. For the past two thousand years there had been earthquakes. ‘The beginning of sorrows, two thousand years ago.’ 

39                              Nine - Read: 

9               Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 

-- That's also two thousand years ago. Now what do they say? Now are they coming

to kill you? Who will come and kill you? Nobody will kill you. This is: Those days they killed the people for accepting the name of Jesus. This is the first tribulation. Did not millions die in the first tribulation? This is that tribulation!

40                              Ten:

10           And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 

-- It is not the betraying now. That is the first tribulation. 

11           And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 

-- Then comes the false prophets. That is, they are the soothsayers. Don't they say, 'Red saree, green saree?' (Side change)

41                              .....After the tribulation, then all the false prophets come. They will say, as if they know a lot: “Oh woman with stomach pain; oh, the one with heart ache.” Let the chest ache, but you are a false prophet. 

42                              Then:

12           And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 

-- Now the love of many has waxed cold. 

43                              Because in the name of Jesus so many business is done. “I don't have a loudspeaker. If somebody gives that, I'll pray for them.” This fellows prayer won't go above the roof, then why are you wasting and giving your money? Instead of that, give it to a beggar, to widows without food and to orphan children. You go from house to house and ask: “Do you have food?” If they don't have, then give. M.G.R.3 is doing a better work than that. But what are you doing? You are making these gluttons more fat.

44                              So what you have to do? Help the poor people. Wherever you go, you don't give it to these preachers; that won't be in God's account. That - he is already rich enough. You need not give me also. I am a very rich man according to other people's sayings. Because others say so, I'll become like that. Already I have become. 

45                              Then:

13           But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 

-- You have to endure till the end. Do they not run in the half way? If you don't give

money, he'll run away: “Bro. Lawrie is a thief.” Even if you don't get money, you stand. 

46                              Then: 

14           And this gospel of the kingdom 

-- And this gospel of the kingdom! This gospel is starting now only. This gospel of

the kingdom,

shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; 

-- It shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations. “What? Will Bro. Lawrie's message go like that?” - “Brother, it has started going like that.” Except Tamilnadu, it is going everywhere. Why? For him only greater punishment, because he is going to get lot of tribulation. 

47                              Then:

and then shall the end come. 

-- ‘Then shall the end come.’ Without this gospel being preached the end can't come. 

48                              Fifteen: 

15           When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 

-- That is when the Jerusalem temple - when the antichrist came and killed the pigs

and put the Jupiter image there, God is warning the Jews: “Immediately run away; because you will be killed!” That is why the Jews scattered.  

49                              Seventeen, eighteen: 

17           Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 

18           Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 

19           And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 

50                              Twenty one:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 

-- Then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world till

this time. Because when the image spoken of by Daniel was placed, then came the terrible tribulation, where millions of people were killed by beasts. That is the first tribulation in full swing. 

51                              Now after that: 

22           And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 

23           Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 

-- This verse only they take for me. 

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 

-- Why? After this tribulation, this was many years back by the Roman Catholic

church. They have forgotten all these. 

52                              Now both of them are dancing. 'We both are brothers. “Oh brother! They were the ones who killed our forefathers. Are you not walking on their blood? You are walking on the blood.” People were crying! Now it seems they have joined. “Oh, what happiness!” They are very happy - “We have become friends.” Now, you are preparing for the second tribulation. 

53                              Then - many false christs:

24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 

-- So there will be great signs. 

54                              Today false christs will show greater miracles and signs. “Oh, Bro. Lawrie has fallen.” It was good that you told that I have fallen, because I am not showing any wonders. If you say, “Oh, there a lot of wonders happen”, let it happen well and good there. To deceive the very elect! So the deception is going on. 

55                              He is telling, 

          25  Behold, I have told you before. 

-- Behold, I have told you already. He has told you before, so you can't escape. “Oh,

there was a big crowd; in Tirupathi4 there is a big crowd; in Sabarimala5 there is a big crowd; a great revival festival is going on in the seashore.” Let it be! Even let the wonders happen. 

56                              When Jesus Christ comes there won't be wonders. Why? Sowing time there should be rain. How will it be if rain comes at harvesting time? Now don't tell, “Let the rain come, let the rain come.” “Lord, we don't want rain, we are harvesting the paddy; let rain come after the harvest.” If the harvesting is finished.... 

57                              Now only the tares have been bound. Today the binding of the tares is over. It is sealed. It is sealed. In each, it is sealed with a big seal. Hereafter no one come from inside that.

So, let the tares be there for being burnt. Now we have to take the grain. 

58                              Now see - Twenty six! 

26           Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 

27           For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 

-- From where will the lighting come? It cometh out of America - is it? May be you

don't know the direction? West is not East. For some, since the money comes, it becomes East. Immediately he turns like this - “Oh, my god.” There the sun god is there. For us, it is in the East. It starts from there.... It won't shine in the East, it will shine in the West. 

59                              So, the coming of the Son of Man starts from the East and goes to the West and shines there. When that time comes, that is already happened. 

60                              Twenty eight:

          28   For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 

-- What is the meaning of carcase? What does carcase mean? It is dead. Immediately

what comes? The eagles which eat the carcase - vultures. 

61                              A real eagle will come for the fresh meat. Now, this is fresh meat. That is flesh dead two thousand years ago. To eat that which is running? The eagles which eat carcases - vultures. So what happens there? Everywhere - “How much he will give? Will he give five hundred rupees? Will he give thousand?” Then they say, “Your church is my church.” Run! These are all the vultures which eat the carcase. Because there is no message. There is no truth. There is only something to eat. 

62                              So these vultures, 'Wheresoever the carcase is' - wheresoever there is a dead teaching, wheresoever there is the 'Father, Son and the Holy Ghost' teaching, all the vultures fly. But here, let the true people, let the true eagle come for the fresh message for this hour. This is the fresh message for the hour given by God directly. For two thousand years it was sealed! Now it is revealed for the bride! O bride! Come open your eyes! O bride! Open your eyes! Because our time of glorification is near!’ 

63                              Then:

          29  Immediately after the tribulation of those days

-- Herein He has kept a tangle. After this is finished, “immediately there is a

tribulation”. Without telling this out - we don't read it. 

64                              The moment we are taken up, there is tribulation. Millions of people will die. Am I the antichrist? The same antichrist is coming to kill you. It is not me. I love you! That is why God has sent me here! After we go away, our message is the life for the hour! After we go, there is no message, there is no life! Then, tribulation! That is for hay - do you know why? 

65                              First tribulation, they stood for Jesus. They died. Then it was glorious. They will raise up and come. This tribulation is now coming against Christ. That is why this tribulation has no value. The one who dies in this, he will die only as an enemy of Christ. Why? He has already gone like lightning. This is the lightning message. Then immediately, the people who are killed have no value. It is not for truth. Sister, run to the truth. After that, there is nothing to make amends for you.

66                              Then:  

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 

-- Heaven is shaken the second time. Why? Because the tribulation is finished. 

67                              In Noah's time God saved the people. Today God will glorify the people. When tribulation comes, and that is no value. If you want to stand for God, stand now. After that you may have to stand for the antichrist. Then the sun will be darkened, the stars will fall. Then the third coming. The second coming - for you blind, it is not visible to you. The second coming is gone! Tribulation is setting in. Then the same Son of David comes in glory! Who? The Son of Man! 

68                              Now he is an ordinary man. Just see how He comes then! 

30           And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, 

-- Then only they mourn. Then only they'll say: “Lord, I am a sinner, he is a sinner...”  and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 

-- They will mourn. He comes in great glory. 

they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 

31           And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 

-- After that, our Bishop will sound the trumpet? It seems the angel sounds the

trumpet. 

69                              What is the trumpet? The two witnesses go and gather the Jews. This is for the bride. After the tribulation, then after that, the third coming comes. 

70                              There are three comings. Jesus came to pay the price for the bride. And He said, “It is expedient that I go. I am going to prepare for a home for you, My bride. You need not a house here.” I don't have a house here. I have a house there! We all will be in one house. The Son of God builds the house! 

71                              And after that He said, “I'll come...” He didn't say, “O you harlot come to the sky.” - “Coming to your house and taking you, I will take you unto Myself.” O shameless church, will you run to heaven? My Lord came in search of me! He came in search of me!! That is why we are happy today. 

72                              So in this great day, Bride be happy. Our time is finished. Because, the Lord told me, “Go! The glory of God is there. No fellow will stand. If any fellow withstands, the angel of God will destroy him.” Come on! The whole Indian Christian! All the world Christians! Come back to God's word! Otherwise be destroyed. God bless you. 

73                              (The song 'Where are you going astray forgetting Jesus who calls you' is sung by the orchestra.) All keep on praying. 

74                              The time is running short. Get ready to go with Jesus. Don't miss this opportunity. Because there is no more time left for you. The message of God is coming direct to you. This is not a compromising message. It is coming from the Spirit of Truth. If it touches you - God's sheep hear His voice. If this touches your heart, immediately you submit to ‘that’ voice. 

75                              In Noah's time, many people were fooling. But according to God's word, the rain came. And they had no chance. Are you inside or outside? If you are inside you are safe. Come totally inside. Your education cannot save you; your knowledge cannot save you; your money cannot save you; your beauty cannot save you; your strength cannot save you! Oh sinner, come to God! Oh backslider, don't you hear the voice of God?! How much truth God gave you! But you sold all that for money. You sold that for fame. But God gives you a last chance! Otherwise destruction comes to you. 

76                              Let us pray. Every eye closed. God has been speaking to us and God has been giving us new meat. Let the vultures go for old meat. But you, take the fresh meat of God. If you have been against God's word, repent today. Come on boldly for God. It is worth serving God today! I thank God I am serving full-time for God today. God calls some full-time people! There is a call coming for you today! How many people will go for the ‘Kingdom message’?! How many people are going to tell 'The Lord is reigning' today?! Will you come forward?! So we can pray for you.! 

77                              Let us pray. Loving Saviour. I thank You for Jesus. Thank you for the sacrifice. What a love You have for us! You gave Your own life for us Lord. Unless we give our whole life for You, we are not appreciating that love. 

78                              How many of you want to devote their life to God? Will you stand up and come forward? God calls you. Come forward. Just come forward here we will pray for you. This is not just for salvation - for those who are coming for the kingdom. 

79                              God has done many things for you. Come and dedicate your life for God. Come forward. You know, this is not just a play thing. Because this new message, God wants to send people. Will you be one of them, or will you be just sitting and rotting? You want to go in glory? But will you give your life to God? 

80                              As this music goes, will you please get up and come forward? First of all, all of you get up, and those who want to come for God come forward. Come forward, kneel down in the front. (Bro. Lawrie sings the song 'Come believing Jesus'.) 

81                              I am going to pray for you. Today I am not going to pray individually. Get the blessings of God and go. 

82                              In the new name of the Lord Jesus, in the name of my Father who hears my prayer always, I command all the sickness to leave the bodies! Let the peace of God come into their lives! Fill them with the Holy Ghost. Fill them with the Holy Ghost! Cast out every devil! Let the peace of God come into their lives. Bless them Lord. Let their life be a blessed life. Not for this world, but for You. I commit them into Your hands. Thank You Jesus! Amen. 

-- Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie

December 02, 1983

Madras - Periyar Thidal

 

1   Varuvaar - In Tamil it means, 'He cometh'. Varuval - In Tamil it means, 'Fry'. 

2   Rudratcha - The nuts of the Elococarpus ganitrus' tree worn as a chain of beads by Hindu religious mendicants.

3   M.G.R. - Former Chief Minister of the State of Tamilnadu.

4   Tirupathi - A shrine in Andhra Pradesh of South India.  5 Sabarimala - A shrine in Kerala of South India.

GOD'S PROMISE TO DAVID

1                                  Praise be to the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Let us turn to Psalm 89, Verses 35 and 36.

35           Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David. 

36           His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun before me. 

2                                  In the Bible God has promised many blessings. And if the people don't obey God's word, immediately that is the fall of man. It was a small commandment which God gave Adam. He said, “Don't eat that fruit.” But Adam and Eve, they just took lightly of the command. You know, the command by an ordinary man is not very important. But when it comes from a big man or a king, it is even - you have to meet with death. That's why God said, “On the day that you eat thereof, you will die.” What is the secret of that? 

3                                  When Adam and Eve disobeyed God's word, immediately they got the possession of the evil spirit. If Adam and Eve could get that punishment, today if the churches and people of the churches outright deny the word, and they never follow the Bible, they will do what they like and call themselves Christians, how much devil possession will come! People don't realize that. If you want your demon power to get out of your bodies, confess your fall and come back to God's word. I am raised by God to turn you back to God's word. Otherwise I can just polish you and get your good will. 

4                                  Because I told the truth in Tamilnadu, I became the enemy. Not because I stole anything or I did anything wrong. Even if you stand with me, you can get a same plight. But this cannot go on permanently. Because if a man stands for God's word, he has got all the heavenly power to support him. 

5                                  This ministry is backed up by God and vindicated by God Almighty. These meetings are arranged, not to show that I am a big man, but that the Almighty is living today and He has been interfering with the people's activities. He interferes. He raises anybody whom He likes and puts down anybody He likes. It is not man's election or anything which is making people come to power; it is God's hand in every country. 

6                                  Now, in the beginning there was no king David; there was only Adam, and he was called ‘Son of God’. That is strange. We are all men, why this man was called ‘Son of God’? God in His foreknowledge, He had a great plan. He never did a mistake. He will always make it right. He will never tell a lie. What He said, He will perform. That is what I found out these forty years. Why? He never fails one word He promised. So God in His foreknowledge, He found out many of the people who believed Him. 

7                                  Man has got five senses. He will believe only what his five senses say. And if the five senses deny that, they deny that. But God's people, they have seen something deeper. They won't believe the five senses, they will believe what God has said. ‘Where is God?’ He is God, He is one God everywhere. No man has seen God at any time. He is everywhere. Then how can He express Himself to man? When man was created,... I am not going deeper into all these things, but I am just brushing up. 

8                                  One day, there were the judges. Then after that, they wanted prophets. Then prophets also, they didn't like it. They wanted a king. And when they wanted a king, there were many kings - king Saul and all. But they never pleased God. 

9                                  But there was a man: King David. He was a very bad man in his life. But one thing he did, he always gave his throne to God. That is why king David's throne was called the ‘Lord's Throne’. Because he was seating God in the throne. Whatever he did, he listened to some power and obeyed that. So he was not a king, it was God was the king. So God promised him, that his throne will be eternal. That one man in his seed will come, and his throne will never fail. But he mistook. Because the Bible says, that after his death God will raise a man in his family. (2 Samuel 7:12) What he mistook was, while he was living itself, that He will raise his son. So the choice was Solomon. That was wrong. Because after that, it divided into two groups. And last man Jechoniah, he burnt the Bible. So God told him, “You will die childless.” So he had nobody to sit on the throne - no male member. 

10                              In the David's line, it was first Judah line. Before Judah.... You know, sometimes people say, ‘What is Ram?’ Ram was the great grandfather of David. (Ruth 4:19) It is not some other country. Because, when the say Ramraj, it is not something to be frightened. Because before David, there was a man reigning as Ram. In that line he came. 

11                              But there were two people for Judah. One was Pharez and another was Zerah. This two children, they were called Judah. But out of this two, God was supporting Pharez. But Jacob before his death, he called his children, “I will tell you what is going to happen to you in the last days.” (Genesis 49:1-27) He told Judah, “The sceptre will not leave you, till Shiloh comes.” So till two thousand years, every ruler must have been one of the tribe of Judah. Not from Pharez' tribe, in the other tribe. So two thousand years, the rule was under them. At this time when the rule was going on, and Jacob was calling the children and he told them about Joseph. “God will bless Joseph; and they will be blessed by the stone of Israel, shepherd of Israel; the Mighty God of Jacob.” So they thought, that Joseph has to bring forth the stone of Israel. But 'stone of Israel' is Lord God. God was supporting Joseph' tribe. 

12                              Now two thousand years have gone. And what happened to this David's tribe? After they committed sin, God destroyed the Judah tribe. The whole Jews were scattered all over. Then there were two kinds of groups. God called one group as ‘bad figs’, the other one He said, ‘Good figs’. The good figs were taken by king Nebuchadnezzar and they were brought to India. And the other group, it was called bad figs. They went through Egypt, all over Europe and all the people. And for two thousand years they were ruling, but their rule was not correct. But God promised them, two thousand years they can continue, till Shiloh comes. 

13                              So the good figs, they were going on to Babylon. Wherever they went, God gave them prophets. But God never gave them prophets - for the other people. When this was going on, there was a muddle of Zerubbabel. There were three kinds of Zerubbabel. People don't know the Bible properly. One comes in the Solomon line. Solomon's line has the curse. So God could not put anybody in this throne. 

14                              So when Joseph came - and about to have a child through Mary; if a child was born, that would have been a cursed son. So he could not rule. And God knew that. Before Joseph could get together,... Because the devil wanted to stop the Son of David coming, so he brought Joseph to Mary. But God brought the child without Joseph. When the angel came to Mary, he said one thing: “Your child will be called Jesus; He will be great. And the throne of God, Lord God will give the father David's throne.” So Mary was telling, “I don't come in that line. How can this be?” (Luke 1:30-34) Then the angel was explaining, that through atonement, the Son of David will give the throne to Him. 

15                              So here, there is a great secret. One Zerubbabel came. In the Bible it says, “One of the people in the Zerubbabel's family will become the signet.” (Hagai 2:23) The meaning of Zerubbabel is, 'Born in Babylon.' So Zerubbabel means, one born in Babylon will be a ruler. So there is a line coming in Mary's line. There is also Zerubbabel. There's another coming through Solomon. But Jesus was not born to any of these people. 

16                              But one Zerubbabel was with Darius. If you turn to Apocrypha, there it is said about that. They have put it out because it tells about Zerubbabel. And this Zerubbabel was one of the three body guards of Darius. So these three people put a question to the king. Whose is the best answer, he will be the next to the Darius. So he will be called Darius' cousin. They were body guards. 

17                              So if you study that, this Zerubbabel was fighting for the righteousness of God. So he was telling the king, “Who is the powerful, man?” One bodyguard said: ‘It is the wine; wine is powerful.’ Then the other body guard said: ‘King.’ But this Zerubbabel said, “A woman, and more powerful is the One who created that woman.” So he said, “The king is bad; woman is bad; everybody bad; but there is one God: He is the truth.” So the prize went to him. So he became the bodyguard of Darius. So he could not leave him and come and build the temple. So he sent Zambasar. 

18                              So these other two Zerubbabels, they have a different genealogy. They want to claim what is God is going to give the Son of David, so they called their names Zerubbabel. So one of the daughters of Jechoniah married the other line of Zerah. Those are the British kings and other kings. 

19                              But on moon landing day, when the Shiloh comes, every throne will have to come down. So you will find in 1969, even in India all the Maharajas put their crown down. Today there is no king living who is powerful. There is only one queen - Queen Elizabeth. But she has no power. She is a rubber stamp queen. 

20                              But when this is going on, God has promised David's Son eternal life and all the blessings of the second lamb. So when John the baptist baptized, he heard a voice, “This is My beloved Son, I am pleased with Him.” But when God changed Him in transfiguration mountain, He said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear Him.” That was the accepted Son. This is what, the sacrificed Son. 

21                              My dear friends, you may say so many things for two thousand years. But when the truth comes, it will break the whole thing. This is the stone which will break all Christianity. So they are very quickly, they are translating the Bible and bringing new revised version, so that they will prove that this is wrong. So long as you have the other Bible, you won't be wrong. Very soon this will be banned. After glorification, they will ban all the other Bibles. 

22                              There are very many books in this world. There is Bhagavad Gita, Koran. What I am telling you is: we must read all these books. Musn't be like a frog in the well - only talk about Christianity. Suppose we are wrong? We have to be careful. 

23                              Today in the name of religion, many people are going into darkness. Why so much of trouble in India? Why so much people are fighting? They don't believe that we are one people - Indians. We divide in the name of religion. Come on, we will unite as Indians! I am not come here to criticize your religion. I have not come here to religionize your beliefs. We are free people who can have any faith. And we are free to tell what we know. I am telling what I know. You can tell what you know. But why should you fight? Why should you kill each other? 

24                              In the name of religion, hundreds and millions have been killed. In the name of crusade fight, millions of people have died. Muslims killing Christians, Christians killing Muslims. In the name of religion, millions in the partition. Many millions have been killed. That is not God! There is no God there. God never tells you to kill anybody. God loves us! God loves everybody. 

25                              See God! Let us see His nature. The sunlight, He is giving free for everybody. Even a drunkard can enjoy the sunlight. Even a godless atheist can enjoy the sunlight. Sunlight is not only for Christians, not only for Americans, not for English; it's for all. In the same way 'rain', for everybody. Moon - for all. And air, you can breathe. It is not for Christians only. You can breathe and praise God. 

26                              Today, the greatest sin is, people don't thank God. They are fighting on God in the different names, but they don't thank that one great God. You go to God and He will tell the name to you. In heaven, if you are fighting here, there is no place there. 

27                              So what happens? When Jesus was born, He was Son of God. God came down and when He was baptised.... Any sacrifice, it has to die for somebody else. That is why, when He was baptized, the Spirit of the Lord came. He didn't get the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit is for a sinner. Spirit of the Lord is for a sanctified man. From that day, He was calling Himself Son of Man. Why? He is going to die for the Son of Man. He was called Son of David, because He was going to die for Son of David. 

28                              When He was tempted, the devil asked Him three questions: (Matthew 4:1-11) “If you are son of God, if you are the Son of God, make these stones as bread and eat.” What did Jesus say? “Man shall not - man, man, man.” He was not born man. He was born as - without any - man. But because of the baptism, since He has to take the death from Son of David and from all those who are in Christ, so He had to take the place of man. Then the devil comes again. Asked Him, “If you are the Son of God, jump from this tower, the angels will carry you.” What the devil said was correct. But here, after baptism, He was not claiming that He was Son of God. Why? He said, “I am a Man. It is written, it is written: Man shall not live by bread alone. It is written: Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.” Then the devil says, “If you are the Son of God, fall down and worship me.” Then He said, “Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God alone and nobody else. It is written.” So the devil knew, He is only a man. He didn't know, that He was Son of God. 

29                              So when He was killed - and when He was killed, and that life, that blood atones for all our sins. That is why Paul says: “There is one God, one mediator between God and man, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all.” So that is the great thing. Why did Jesus do that? 

30                              Now listen: Unseen God can be revealed only by the Son of God, because you can't see Him. Suppose you want to show the air, you have to pump it in football and say, this is 'air'. So Bible says, “No man hath seen God at any time, but the Son revealed the Father - declared Him.” (John 1:18) So what does the Bible say? ‘Unto us a child is born, a Son is given.’ (Isaiah 9:6) That Son's name is 'everlasting Father', not anybody else's. The Son's name is 'Father'. Why? Because He comes into Jesus and calls Himself His Son. So that He will reveal the Father. And when He revealed the Father, then we know that the unseen God is our Father. 

31                              Today we are fighting in the name of religion. I am not come to fight in the name of religion. I have come to fight in the name of the one God. If you don't understand, ask God to teach you. Don't think as if you know everything. 

32                              I am a man sent by God, not by any Bishop or anybody, not any license or anything. I was called directly by God: “Go and tell the people.” I am bringing a message from the great King! I am a black man, I am a useless man. That doesn't matter! Suppose Indira Gandhi is there, she sends a message through an ordinary man, or a police constable; it is valuable because it comes from Indira Gandhi. So I am getting a message from the great King who created you and me. So it is very important! 

33                              What I say, my God will honour that! Because I am telling what He wanted to tell you. If you don't believe, I won't fight with you. Because I am asked by Him to tell you. If you believe it, you will be blessed. If you don't believe it, then this word will judge you. Because the King sent the message. I am not the King. I worship that King. 

34                              So what happens? When king David came, he tells in Psalms. God promised him, “I will give your a Son eternal life. And through that Son, God will bless you.” 

35                              89th Psalm. 

1 I will sing of the mercies of the LORD for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations. 

-- Why he is telling that? God has told him something great. 

3               I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant, 

4               Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah. 

-- That is the promise of God. So God promised him something, and He will fulfil it. So God

has given him a vision. We will see what that vision is. 

36                              Nineteen:

19           Then thou spakest in vision to thy holy one, and saidst, I have laid help upon one that is mighty; I have exalted one chosen out of the people. 

-- Thou spakest in vision to thy holy one, ‘I have laid my help upon one that is mighty. I

exalted one chosen out of the people.’ 

37                              And then it comes.

20           I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him: 

21           With whom my hand shall be established: mine arm also shall strengthen him. 

22           The enemy shall not exact upon him; nor the son of wickedness afflict him. 

23           And I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague them that hate him. 

-- This is the promise, not to David - for his seed. 

24           But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted. 

-- My mercy shall be with him. In My name shall his horn be exalted. 

25           I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers. 

38                              Now listen.

26           He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation. 

-- He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation. 

27           Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. 

-- ‘And I will make him My firstborn’! 

39                              Who is the Firstborn of God? Christ Jesus is the Firstborn of God. But He is telling, ‘I will make your seed as My Firstborn.’ That is terrible! What is the power of the Firstborn? You can't kill Him. He can give His life and take it back. He can do so many things. That's the power given to the Firstborn. God told this man, “He will call Me Father, and I will make him My Firstborn.” 

40                              Then,

28           My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him. 

29           His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven. 

30           If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; 

41                              Jesus had no children. Then how did this Son of David have children? My dear friends, just listen to the Bible. Jesus had no children. But Son of David who is going to rule, who is going to come in glory, he has got three children. 

And if his children forsake the law, 

31           If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; 

32           Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. 

-- I will visit their transgression with the rod and iniquity with stripes. 

42                              But the king, early days, when the children make mistakes, the king also lost the throne. But He says now, “Even if the children make mistakes, He will punish the children, but He will never punish the Son of David.” Why? Because He is chosen. 

43                              And then He says,  

33           Nevertheless my loving kindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail. 

-- My loving kindness will I not utterly take away from him; not suffer my faithfulness to

fail. 

34           My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. 

-- My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that goeth out of my lips. 

35           Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David. 

-- Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.

36           His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun before me. 

-- His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun. 

44                              This is the promise given to David. He believed it. But when Solomon's throne went away, when they were scattered all over the world, then he lost faith. “Where is the promise which God gave me? Otherwise Solomon would not have gone like this.” He became very bad in faith. “What happened? My Solomon lost the throne. He has promised the throne for ever.” But this Solomon was king David's choice while he was living. But the David coming after his death - after David dies, that man, that is the promise for him. So he was thinking, that because of Solomon the throne is gone. 

45                              Then see what he says. He is very much worried. Thirty eight.

         38 But thou hast cast off and abhorred, thou hast been wroth with thine anointed. 

-- Solomon is gone. So you have been against our throne. 

46                              Then he says: 

39           Thou hast made void the covenant of thy servant:  -- So he is telling, “You have broken the covenant.”  thou hast profaned his crown by casting it to the ground. 

-- ‘Thou hast profaned his crown by casting it to the ground.’ Because he thought the

kingdom is gone. 

40           Thou hast broken down all his hedges; thou hast brought his strong holds to ruin. 

41           All that pass by the way spoil him: he is a reproach to his neighbours. 

42           Thou hast set up the right hand of his adversaries; thou hast made all his enemies to rejoice. 

-- So, that is his complaint. 

43           Thou hast also turned the edge of his sword, and hast not made him to stand in the battle. 

44           Thou hast made his glory to cease, and cast his throne down to the ground. 

47                              Then, God takes him further in a vision. He comes to Calvary. He thought Jesus was the Son.

Then he says: 

44           Thou hast made his glory to cease, and cast his throne down to the ground. 

45           The days of his youth hast thou shortened: thou hast covered him with shame. Selah. 

48                              He sees Jesus spat, beaten. He thought that He was the - another coming King. So he is telling, “That man is also gone in shame.” He is having a vision of all the things happening! Then he cries. “Oh, my other son also gone.” 

49                              Then he says: 

         46  How long, LORD? 

--Till when Lord?!

wilt thou hide thyself for ever? 

50                              What was David thinking? God must hide in one of his sons. If He is hiding, they can't die - if He is hidden in him. So Solomon died. So God was not there. Secondly Jesus died as a sacrifice. God left Him also - forsook Him. Because He Himself says, because He is going to die for Son of David, “My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken Me?”  51 Then he is telling: 

wilt thou hide thyself for ever? Shall thy wrath burn like fire? 

-- Now he is teaching God:

47           Remember how short my time is: 

-- This, God doesn't know? He is telling God! “Remember how short my time is.”  wherefore hast thou made all men in vain? 

-- “Why did you make man vain?” Who is teaching God? King David. - “Why did You make

man vain?” 

48           What man is he that liveth, and shall not see death? 

-- His faith is gone! Because he thought man is going to live. 

52                              Solomon went, all the kings went, and Babylon Nebuchadnezzar came and shattered them.

Then Jesus came to set up the kingdom. So he also couldn't find God hiding there. Now he is teaching God: “Why did You create man in vain? He is dying. There is no man who can overcome death.” Just like the present day Christians - Oh, you can't overcome death! The last enemy that should be overcome is death!! Last enemy! There is a time coming when we can overcome that also! But God must hide. God was not hiding in these people. 

49           Lord, where are thy former loving kindnesses, which thou swarest unto David in thy truth? 

-- Lord where are thy former loving kindnesses, which thou swarest unto David thy servant. 

53                              Fifty:

50           Remember, Lord, the reproach of thy servants; how I do bear in my bosom the reproach of all the mighty people; 

54                              After Jesus, two thousand years, all God's people have been bearing shame. “Why Lord? There is no remedy for that?” He is complaining. Lost the faith. Then God is showing the end time: 

51           Wherewith thine enemies have reproached, O LORD; wherewith they have reproached the footsteps of thine anointed. 

-- “O Lord, wherewith thine enemies have reproached, O Lord; wherewith they have

reproached the footsteps of thine anointed.” 

55                              Then he sees the end time. And he sees that one of the children also being hated and hunted and all kinds of bad names coming to that man also in the earth. What he says? “They have reproached the footsteps of thine anointed.” 

56                              So today, what is king David's verse? He is seeing the vision. When he came to that, God opens his understanding. He found out where God was hiding. Then he said: 

52           Blessed be the LORD for evermore. Amen, and Amen. 

-- ‘Blessed be the LORD! Blessed be the LORD for evermore! Amen, and Amen! Amen, and Amen.’ So David, immediately got his faith back. He died peacefully. 

57                              When Jesus died, what happened? With that blood, Christ Jesus rushed there. That sacrifice blood, it is taken by Christ Jesus, rushes to the gate. Then the people are singing. King David and all the people are prisoners. He comes to shake the gate. They shout from inside. ‘Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.’ (Psalm 24:7)

58                              Then the devil asks: “Who is that king? Who is that?” - “The Lord God almighty.” That is the day they got the revelation. Then God took them all and took them to paradise. Today, they all are ready to come to life. A group of people are ready to go in glory. And the others are ready to go into tribulation. Where are you?!! 

59                              My dear brothers and sisters, if this is wrong, come on with the Bible. You don't take the Bible. All our enemies, those who are named Christians, can you take the Bible? Because you are blinded! Because of money, because of covetousness, because of worldly things, you have got blinded! But these good figs, they were brought to this India. What happened? British came, Muslim rule came, but these Hindus cannot be converted. Why? They are waiting for their king. 

60                              My dear friends, if you study the Indian books, you see Tagore, he writes about this Son of David. Today that national anthem: “He that brings the destiny of India -  You who determine the destiny, victory to thee!” That is our national anthem. Our national anthem is not like the other things: 'Save the father land, save the mother land'. It is victory to that person. Victory! Victory! Victory to thee who determines the destiny of India. Let victory come to Him. Let us all shout and say, “Victory to God!

Victory to King!” That is our national anthem! I am proud about our national anthem! This is a ‘punya bhoomi’1! One day, God will open our understanding! 

61                              Today many Christians say, they are idol worshippers. What does the commandment say? ‘Don't worship anything in the heaven or earth, any form like that.’ (Exodus 20:4) That is worshipping anybody. But the Hindu gods - Hindu idols, it is ‘Thathuvam’2. That is called 'ungodliness'. God says, ‘I will remove their ungodliness.’ (Romans 11:26) But they know one thing: They know the Lord God. They have been elected people. 

62                              In India, God is coming for that treasure. But the people who have been professing Christ, many people will come from East and West, but the children of the people will be away. (Matthew 8:12)

63                              So today, my dear friends, you read Sahaj Marg, you read Veera Brahman, you read Ahilathirattu. The prophet comes. Bro. Branham came. Today, the followers of Bro. Branham, there are many believers who went from us; if money stops, then they will know the truth. For the sake of money, they are blaming everybody. But I want to tell you, Prophet Branham came. This ministry is the follow ministry of Bro. Branham. No other ministry there. If you want to talk about a following ministry, this is the following ministry.

64                              You know, in the East, the tribe of Judah is there. That is why, today India is patiently waiting. But one day, the one whose right it is, He will come - one to whom the right is. To whom it is by right, whoever that is, but one has the right. He must be born in the line of David. And then they, then by the power, God will bring the people. Don't worry about that. The whole India,... 

65                              Recently, Benjamin Creme said, ‘He blew the trumpet from Scotland.’ He is a Scottish painter. ‘Christ has come in the East.’ That trumpet is gone. When a trumpet is blown, they are all turning to India. There are fifty three people, claiming they are the people. Let everybody claim, but God has to vindicate it. God is vindicating. 

66                              So today, they have found out something great is going to happen in India. Let it be hundred people claiming that, but He comes according to these books. In all the books, this Bhagavad Gita, expecting a Krishna; Koran, expecting Mahadi; and Bible, tells Christ to come. Everyday: Coming, coming. - When? He has to come one day! 

67                              When Jesus came, John the Baptist came. He prepared the way. Bro. Branham prepared the way for the second coming. Then the third coming. Second coming is secret coming. The prophet is come and gone, and the Word has come down! He is opening the word. 

68                              My dear brothers and sisters, in these last days, thank God - has brought you to the truth. Go on firmly to the end. You will overcome. Let us pray. 

69                              (The song 'The time passes by' is sung by the orchestra.) God calls you. He is very near to you. Why don't you open your heart to Him? Why don't you surrender your whole life to Him? Don't you hear the voice of God? He is calling you. Time is very short. Life is uncertain. Are you going to be permanently in this world? Without God you cannot do that! Life is very uncertain. Why are you spending everything for these uncertain things? Without Jesus there is no life in you. I don't want you to convert to another religion. 

70                              Let us pray! Every one of you, if you are sick in body, if you have no peace, if you have any problems, I want you to get up, I am going to pray for you. Come on get up, I am going to pray for you all. And keep your right hand on the sick part of your body. My God hears my prayers. As I pray, believe that God has done that to you. If your sick ones are far away, remember them now. God's hand is not short. God will heal them there also. 

71                              Let us pray. Every eye closed. In the name of the Lord Jesus, in the mighty new name of God, I command every sickness to leave these bodies. Every demon power to get out of these bodies. Let them be filled with the Holy Ghost! Fill them all with thy Spirit Lord. Fill them Lord with the power of

God! Every demons get away! Lord, if I am sent by You, as I tell this message, I pray, that You will vindicate my message! Perform a miracle here Lord. Thank you for doing that! Amen! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! 

-- Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie.

December 03, 1983

Madras - Periyar Thidal

 

1   Punya Bhoomi - Divine land

2   Thathuvam - Philosophical forms

BE A REAL LIVING SACRIFICE

1                                  Today is a very important day of worship. Specially we must know fully well about sacrifice. There are many kinds of sacrifices mentioned in the Old Testament. And today, the Christians don't touch the Old Testament. John says, that children's faith is different from father's faith. Children's faith means: That when they know that their sins are forgiven, they are children. That means, they have known the meaning of atonement. But they are not fathers. When they become father's, they know Him who was from the beginning. That means: They know the Lord God. (1 John 2:12-14)

2                                  And today there are many names for the Lord God. In Hindus, Muslims, Christians, they all have different names. But it means the same thing. That is: It is not the 'Unseen God', but 'The One in Whom the fullness of God dwells'. That doesn't mean that He is God. He contains God in full measure, and He will give the glory to the unseen God always. So how this came into being? It is just like, the Bible - it says about Christ Jesus. It clearly tells, 'There is one God, one mediator between God and man, the Man Christ Jesus.' (1 Timothy 2:5) So man can reach to the limit of Christ Jesus. That's why Jesus said, “No one can come to the Father, but by Me.” 

3                                  If you do not have a revelation about the Lord God, you can never have the revelation about the Unseen God. And the symptom that you have found out God will be, that you will have love for all His creatures. If you hate each other, you don't have the love of God in you. That is why Bible says, “He that doesn't love his brethren, he cannot have God with him.” (1 John 4:20, 21)

4                                  So when Adam sinned, there was a sacrifice. Adam was running away from God. And

God was pursuing him. It is not our finding God; it is God coming in search of us. Man never wanted God. He wanted to run away from God by his fig leaves. But God was searching: “Adam! Where are you?” This morning that question also is put to you: “Where are you?” Are you living for your own self or living for the glory of the One Who created you? This is the battle between everybody. Unless you surrender 100%, you will have self in you; and if the self is in you, surely you will have a portion of the devil in you. 

5                                  When Eve and Adam had self, immediately they had devil possession and brought the hatred between God and him. That is why, in the last ministry, when Jesus is knocking at the door, it is not preaching, it is not shouting on the roads, it is not going to church, it is a fellowship between God and man. ‘If any man opens the door, I will come in and sup with him and he with Me.’ (Revelation 3:20) So that fellowship is a heart to heart fellowship. If you have no heart to heart fellowship, there is something that you are building for yourself. 

6                                  When Paul, when he could do so many things for himself - but he could have done something for himself; but he said, “Not I but Christ.” He said, “I am crucified with Christ; I don't live any more, Christ liveth in me: Now I live by the faith of the Son of God.” (Galatians 2:20) That gives a clear idea that Paul had a revelation about Christ. 

7                                  So we must talk about sacrifice. Leviticus sixteenth chapter, first eight verses. Read. 

1               And the LORD spake unto Moses after the death of the two sons of Aaron, when they offered before the LORD, and died;  

2               And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto Aaron thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy place within the vail before the mercy seat, which is upon the ark;  8 Leviticus first chapter, from first verse: 

1               And the LORD called unto Moses, and spake unto him out of the tabernacle of the congregation, saying, 

2               Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man of you bring an offering unto the LORD, ye shall bring your offering of the cattle, even of the herd, and of the flock. 

3               If his offering be a burnt sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish: he shall offer it of his own voluntary will at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the LORD. 

4               And he shall put his hand upon the head of the burnt offering; and it shall be accepted for him to make atonement for him. 

5               And he shall kill the bullock before the LORD: and the priests, Aaron's sons, shall bring the blood, and sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar that is by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 

6               And he shall flay the burnt offering, and cut it into his pieces. 

7               And the sons of Aaron the priest shall put fire upon the altar, and lay the wood in order upon the fire: 

8               And the priests, Aaron's sons, shall lay the parts, the head, and the fat, in order upon the wood that is on the fire which is upon the altar: 

9               But his inwards and his legs shall he wash in water: and the priest shall burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD. 

9                                  So this is the sweet savour of sacrifice. You can see from the sacrifice, in Romans it is said, in the 12th chapter first verse, ‘Give yourself as a sacrifice.’

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 

-- This is the only worship. 

10                              So let us consider this. First of all, the bullock is outside. A sinner takes a bullock and comes. And the bullock has got horns. It will butt at anybody. That is how we where before. If anybody comes and troubles, immediately we will go to fight. So like that, this bullock also, it is also very ferocious. Then the man catches it, brings it into that gate. There is only one gate for that entrance. And there is no other entrance. 

11                              Today - it is not like our present churches. Only the Hindus have that pattern today. They will build their temples and have the gate only in the East. Now we talk about Christianity, but who is obeying the Bible? They are the people who are opening the Eastern gate. Always the gate of the Hindu temples will be on the East. And they will have stripes of crimson and white. That is in the Bible. But our Churches are quiet different from Bible. That tabernacle study: It will be covered, but we have cut it one side, so that we can see the inside. (Bro. Lawrie talks about the picture of the Tabernacle pattern displayed.) That entrance is from the East. Then there is the altar; then the wash basin. (Bro. Lawrie points to the Tabernacle pattern.)

12                              Then, second one: This is outer, this is inner, that's the Holy of Holies. And see the covering. They have red and white stripes. You go to any Hindu temple, it will be like that only. So you can understand, some people from those days, they are here in India. 

13                              So when the bullock comes in, the sinner brings it. Suppose the priest comes, he brings the bullock, the sinner has to kill it. I was under the impression the priest was killing it. But the sinner kills it. Immediately it dies. But before that it is washed, then he kills it. Then it lies down there. The moment you receive Jesus, you die. Many people are not dead. ‘I - I - My’. This will never die. That means: The salvation has no meaning. 

14                              If you have been saved, and that moment your head is cut off. That is why today, many people's salvation is false. The other religious people are better than the Christians. Why? Because they want to follow God. We want to follow the money and the world. The Hindu yogis, they don't want to follow the five senses. Because that is maya1. 

15                              What you see is not eternal. But we think, this world is very eternal. This is not eternal. Within hundred years, all of us will not be here. We would have gone to eternity. A new generation comes. But we live as if we are going to live here permanently. If you know that revelation, you'll change your life immediately. We are like in a chatram2. We are just here come in to stay - like an aerodrome. Nobody will put a garden in the aerodrome. Nobody will try to sit there and keep on stitching. They will be thinking about going. Any moment you can go. 

16                              We are not sure whether we are going to live tomorrow. But we behave as if we are going to live here permanently. And talk about, ‘My group, this group, that group.’ Suppose you die today, what will happen to your group and your gatherings? There are many preachers, after their death, their group is nowhere. I am sixty three now, I have seen many preachers, and today, those preachers, they don't have the teeth, and they can't even see properly. But thank God, in Christ Jesus, we are getting stronger and stronger. 

17                              So when you cut the head,..... Many people don't have the head cut experience. They must have Christ's head. But they have their own head. Cut your head away! Put on Christ's head. If you have Christ's head, you will never talk - ‘I’. - ‘Not I, but Christ.’ Paul had his head cut off. And instead of that, he put on Christ's head. Is your head cut? 

18                              Then: The skin should be taken away. A skinned life! We have our own skin. Suppose the skin is white: (Bro. Lawrie shows some actions of people showing themselves little proud.) That is: Your skin is not taken away. “Oh, he is a low caste, I am a high caste.” - Your skin has not been taken away. “Oh, I am a Tamilian, he is a Malayalee, he is a Kerala man, he is a Andhra man.” - Your skin is not taken away. We are all human beings. We can say we are Indians, because we are staying in India. But otherwise, we are all creation of God. We are made to be loving each other. But when the devil gets in, we become dogs and bulls. That is why in Noah's ark, animals went. Today in the ark of Christ Jesus, all this animals go in. No decent people go in; all bad people through the righteousness of God. 

19                              Has your skin been taken away? Many people's skin are not taken away. “I am more educated than you.” - Your skin has not been taken away. “I am more beautiful than you. I am taller than you.” One fellow was scolding a fellow, “You black fellow!” You know, the fellow was scolding the other fellow, “You are like a black - which is - water is poured on the palmyrrah tree, that black colour.” So much fight for black of different tints. So today, many people's skin is not taken, most of the Christian's skin has not been taken away. “I belong to that church; I am this denomination.” Nobody is willing to say, ‘I am Christ's’. They not only have the head, skin has not been taken away. 

20                              After that, that is not fit for sacrifice yet. He had to take it's stomach out. All dirt there. Not what is going into the mouth is sinful, but what is coming from inside. Inside the stomach, all kinds of worms, small worms, tape worms, so many kinds of worms, and all bad smell. So unless your stomach is taken away, all your intestines are thrown out, you are not fit for the sacrifice. A life in which ‘intestines’ have not been removed. Have your stomachs been taken away? Many people, they talk big you know! But you know, their stomach is still there, full of worms. These worms and everything must be taken out; cut and taken away. Then it is washed. All the kidneys are taken away; fat is taken away. It is burnt. Then this sacrifice, still not ready. 

21                              You know, a sacrifice of burning all parts of your body. All your parts will be cut into pieces. Our hand says, ‘I'll beat you.’ It has to be cut. When this hand is cut into five pieces, there won't be the saying: ‘I - I'll beat you.’ So, our hands have not been cut. It has to be cut into pieces. After cutting into the pieces, it is placed on the altar with all the fire-wood and the fire has to burn that. That fire is not like human fire. When the Holy Ghost fell, God's fire came. For two thousand years that fire is continuing. That is the fire which can burn that thing. 

22                              When the human body is burnt, suddenly the human body sits. People get afraid. ‘Hey! It is coming to life again man!’ Like that, till you are put in the fire - you know, suddenly the nerves get up. But this ‘I’ will not be burning - ‘I - I - I - I - I - I - My - My.’ You know, ‘My group; I - I.’ The ‘I’ must be burnt. That bone will not be burnt. When the fire goes, everything will burn. The bone will say ‘I’. That has to be burnt. When that is burnt, the whole thing is being burnt. Then in the altar there is little, little portion, all the ashes fall down. So the whole sacrifice is burnt to ashes. You don't see the sacrifice on the top; all burnt to ashes. And this ashes, taken out, outside the camp, and thrown out on the ground. We have to become like ash. That is why the Hindus put ‘thiruneer’3. We are going to become ash like that. They will say ‘thiruneer’ - ‘water of separation’. 

23                              You know, the Hindus retain certain things where we can find out easily. Now when the Jews came to India, the Hindus were here, they were Abraham's relations formerly. They were all the same family, they came together. They were worshipping cows. These people killed cows. So both were fighting. And at last, they came to a settlement. “You should not kill cows.” They said, “We want the ash. Oh, how can you give ash?” - “You can't kill the cow.” - “We can take the ash by the killing of the cow only.” At last the agreement is reached. “You better burn the dung, then you can use it, like killing a cow.” They agreed. But you know what they did? They didn't stop that word. ‘Thiruneer’ - ‘water of separation’ - ‘Holy water’. So, that means, it's the same meaning what is told in the Old testament. That is not ‘thiruneer’. It is not water of separation. But, that name they retained it. This comes under the curse in the Bible. 

24                              If you turn to Malachi, God gave some curse to Judah and Levites. And it comes there. You will put all that cow dung ashes on your face. (Malachi 2:3) Why? Because under that curse they have to do that for some time as a type of sacrifice. 

25                              So in the same way, Jesus also was a sacrifice. He had to be taken out of the camp and die. And the ashes, everybody has to trample that like a door mat. In a door mat, everybody will come, rub there. All kind of dirt is rubbed on the mat. So we have to become like that. Every Dick, Tom and Harry will rub his dirt on us. So this ash, everybody trample it. Have you come into that life? Somebody tramples us, ‘“What did you think of me?” - “I thought that you have not died to your self.” If you are dead, you won't get angry. Because you are not dead, you are still having life. 

26                              A sacrifice will not have his own life. It will be living on God's life. But today, two people get together, one is a complete sacrifice, other is an imitation sacrifice. Both will go together: “Brother, I agree; we are all one, one; we are all good; but, I will have my group.” This is the trouble with the people today. Why? Money comes there. 

27                              When God told me not to collect money, I was very angry. “How can we live without collecting money?” The Lord told me, “I'll send it to you.” If you are in God, without asking, the money should come. Then you are in God. “Brother, they were asking for tithes.” That was before Jesus' time, they had to live on that. But when God has filled us with the Holy Spirit, if people are not giving without asking, how can you believe God? 

28                              You know offering, for the last five days, we got about nearly seventy rupees for the meetings. What a great amount God has given, you know! Praise the Lord! Our people who came to the meetings, all the people gave only so much. But I put the box. You know why? You know, they expel effects of ‘evil eyes’. They put some image on top - the pumpkin on the top. So everybody will say, ‘Lot of money going into the boxes. Lot of money coming into the boxes.’ So one day I told my wife, “When you empty the boxes put lot of coins there.” So she took the money, I said, “Put the coins there.” So I'll see the people. “Lot of money”, they think. So one man, he was following me. Opened the box. (Bro. Lawrie shows some actions of the man wanting to see inside.) “My goodness! fifty thousand people have come, you got only so much?” I have put away the effects of the evil eye. You have seen the pumpkin. So from that day, curse is gone. 

29                              What happened? We had lot of expenses. How did the money come? How did the water come through the well? It will be coming under that well. In the same way, we don't know from where it comes. Suddenly yesterday, one lady who was not in our ministry, she gave an envelope. I put it there. “May be, it might be ten rupees”, and went home. That was thousand rupees. I was thinking, 'There are so many believers in our ministry, they say, ‘I love God’, but why did this lady give?' (Side change)

30                              You know what she told me? “All these years you are only preaching for fifteen minutes. Now only you preach for nearly more than an hour. And I know all what you say is true. And this is my love to you.” God is in that. If you say: “Hey! Where is the tithes? Are you going to give the tithes? God will curse you! You won't get any blessings,” you will be cursed. Not that person. The person who asks only gets the curse. So what do the people say today? ‘Oh, pay the tithes.’ You are decent beggar. Decent beggar! If anybody comes and asks for tithes, he is not a child of God, he is a decent beggar - dignified beggar. You go and kneel down and pray. If God has called you, the money comes running. A fool whom God has not called, he will collect money. Anybody who is collecting money, he is having no call of God. 

31                              One day I was telling God, “How can people give me money without asking?” And one day God told me, “You must go to London.” - “Where is the ticket money?” If God said “Go”, that's all, the money will come. You know the first money which came to me? Dinakaran's father. “Brother we got blessings from you, so this two hundred rupees for you, for your England trip.” Now they tell, “I don't know Bro. Lawrie.” The first money order and the letter came from Bro. Dinakaran and his father. 

32                              Then at that time, I had to spend this money to go to Vellore. I had no money for the ticket. Suddenly a boy became sick. The Lord healed him. And the boss said, “I'll give you the ticket; I'll get you the passport.” So when I went to the Aerodrome, I got the ticket, five and a half anas with me. My wife is telling, “I don't know how you will go and return.” -  “My God will go before me.” You talk so much - some of our believers. “Brother, God is not helping us.” You are not seeking God properly. You are visiting people for money. My wife and I,.... 

33                              Today I love my wife very much, because when I am discouraged, she will come: “I thought that you were a very courageous man, and you don't seem to have courage even worth a penny! How can God let us down?” - “But He is not giving us anything.” - “Let us pray.” When we both combined together, she will give a prayer - a very deep prayer. “Lord! We trusted you and came and should this be our condition?” Right five minutes, the money will come. Forty years, if God could lead us like that, the present day preachers, “Oh, I got so many money...” You got that money by wrong means! I'll tell you, any believer in our ministry, at least for two years he will suffer. Then only he becomes like Job and is able to see the Redeemer. To see the Redeemer, not with the head knowledge, from your heart, at least two years it will be put into the mill. 

34                              My three children, they are now like this. But when we were starving they were starving. I remember Dayavu, he was in the school. “Daddy! I am hungry.” - “What to do boy? Our God has done this.” - “Oh, give me something.” And in the home, sometimes, we will have little food. My wife and I will starve and give it to the children. But today, preaching: “Lord has come down, we get everything to eat...” Something wrong with you! Because that is my experience. 

35                              You can never learn God's move without suffering. That is why God said, “I lead you through the wilderness, in such a dry place, to show you that I am God.” They found out God only in the wilderness. How is that? This tabernacle is only in the wilderness. So in the wilderness life, God was proving them in so many ways. When the difficulty comes, they will reveal their true character. When you are starving, it will automatically reveal what you are! You can say, “Oh, God!” Like the Americans: “Oh, God is a good God; Oh, God is a good God!” The fellow who would have been born yesterday and preached today, they will think: ‘Oh, he is a great man’. Today they have to learn faith life from the Indians. Ordinary Sanyasis4 preach better faith to the Westerners than the Westerners to us. Anything which is not coming by faith is sin. (Romans 14:23) Today, all the people who go after the money, they are in sin. You can never find out God. 

36                              So when I went to London, at that time, that's the first time I am going to London. I am going in the plane to Glasgow, and the pilot said, “We may not land in Glasgow, the plane may crash.” For me the bowels are tensing. “Lord! Lord! Iyyoh, the fellow is telling that the plane is going to crash!” Somehow we escaped. But I had no money to go anywhere. One American was there: “Who are you boy?” - “I am a speaker for this conference.” - “Come on.” We went to the camp. I want about two thousand rupees for the fees. This man said, “I'll pay it.” - ‘My! Have crossed a hurdle!’ (Bro lawrie  shows actions of taking a big breath) After the meetings, I came to the hotel. That fellow is showing the bill - thousand rupees. “Oh, is not this another injustice? Where will I go for thousand rupees? Tomorrow that fellow will catch my throat.” In the midnight, one fellow came and knocked at the door. “Are you Lawrie?” - “Yes, what's the matter?” - “God appeared to me in a dream and wanted me to give thousand rupees.” - “Oh, Lord! Couldn't you tell him to give it as thousand and two hundred? He has given only the exact amount! How will I go on to London?” 

37                              I went there, hungry. Got into the train. Stomach is burning. One fellow came and sat there. “You are from India?” - “Yes.” - “Do you like to eat something?” - “Anything.” He brought chicken and everything. So when I was going to London, “Lord, coming to London I don't know anybody there!” So the train came, when it came near London, The heart is throbbing through fear. Time was 10 o' clock. Shivering. “Where will I go?” As I got down from the train, one man was shouting from the crowd, ‘Lawrie!’ (Bro. Lawrie shows in action of taking another deep breath.) I grew like this only and not:

38                              “Oh, God is a good God. I have got so many money in the bank. Oh, I have got so much of money. I am putting a shed and building an Ashram. I am putting a big bungalow...” That is not the thing. Day by day! That is why God said, ‘Sell everything and give it to the poor.’ When I sell everything and give it to the poor, that is the medicine for ‘self’. You have to take that medicine without fail. Till then,...

39                              Suppose you don't have anything, suppose you are a pauper, you won't give anything; you will collect all the money which is coming to you. And then you will say, 'God is leading you.' Throw out everything. Then you can know, who - God is sending or devil is sending. Devil also is sending money, God also is sending money. You say 'God is with you' and catch the devil's money. And then you talk like a devil. 

40                              So in London, when that fellow came, he told me, “Bro. Lawrie, when I came to India, I was starving, you just helped me, you gave me a new shirt, you washed my clothes; and not only that, you gave me so many rupees. I came to London long ago. Yesterday I had a dream. I saw you coming by that train. So, somehow I came there. I saw you. Come to my house. I want to treat you. I want to show my gratitude to you.” 

41                              So when I went home, one month I was living in that house. Then after that, I settled down there. Then my faith went. God told me, ‘Get away from here.’ Then I travelled like that for one year, came back to India. No money when I came back. My wife was very disappointed. “Everybody goes to America, brings tons of dollars; but you, coming like a pauper! Something wrong with you.” - “No, no, something wrong with them!” There they have been pasted with mortar. They have put cement and buried. But for me, thank God, I escaped! Even today, God is living with me. Then I explained to her: That faith life, none of them is there. We will survive! Then from that day, the Lord worked very wonderfully. 

42                              So when you are a real sacrifice, you must rest, cease from all your works. What is Sabbath? Cease from our own works. That is the rest for the people of God. This, the other Christians don't know. Ninety percent of the Christians don't know. The Hindus know. That is why, because - there are many sadhus5 today. They can go from here to Himalayas, trusting that one God. Then God leads them. This fellow will say, ‘Jejus, Jejus, Jejus’, Won't even know how to pronounce Jesus - ‘Jejus, Jejus, Jejus’. Why? As if his own brother. Prayer - ‘Jejus, Jejus, Jejus’. Then when he shouts: ‘Hallelujah, Hallelujah.’ That is not 'Hallelujah'. ‘Iyyayoh, Iyyayoh! I am dying! I am not getting money, Iyyayoh!’ That is not 'Hallelujah'. But when a man has God, without telling Hallelujah, there is a joy coming from the heart. 

43                              One day I was a fanatic Christian. I thought, all the others go to hell. Today I studied many religions. I went to many friends. We have to learn from them also. So today I buy books from the Moore market, all kinds of books. And I find, they are talking the same thing in a different way. 

44                              In India,... Now see, 'Ayyah'. - ‘Jah’ is Jehovah. See the names of the people. Venkatiah, Subbiah, Ramiah. ‘Yah’ means Jehovah. Why do they have that name 'Jehovah' here? Without their knowledge they have that ‘Jah’ name. What is the meaning of that? They are the people who were scattered in the Babylonian captivity. Abraham came from India - Ur of the Chaldees. Our country was Chaldean country. When I studied the dead sea scrolls, the 'red sea' was not the real red sea. It is called 'Reed Sea'. But the red sea was the Arabian sea. India was called Ox country. So it was called Ox country. 

45                              When God told Abraham to go and see the land, it was not this small country of Canaan.

He crossed the red sea and came to Ox country, came to India. And there are five rivers - Euphrates, Tigris, Pison, Gihon and all. Hidekel is in Persia. Pison river is in India - the Ganges. So these were divided. But what do the others do? They blacked out the India. 

46                              In India, it's not an ordinary country. Here dwells the real cream. Very soon a people will rise up - a new creation. They will stand for God. Not like the Christians, not like the lukewarm Christians. They are the Judah tribe, they will go with the King, like the bride. When they come, nobody will be able to stand against India. Don't think India is a very poor country. It is going to teach the whole world. The wisdom is going from India! Because the present day Christianity is wrong! Because they didn't understand! 

47                              Today, when the Spirit of Truth - that is God, is coming. All glory to Him! He is truth. What He says is Truth. Not I, what He says is Truth! I challenge the whole world today, wherever this tape goes, wherever they see this video, I challenge the whole Christian world: Your teachings is wrong! This message will shake the whole Christian world, divide the Christian world! At that time, the dead people will be in the Christians. The living people will follow me! This is not a small thing! This is not a small message; this is a world message! This stone which has touched India, this is smashing the whole world! Not only that, it will become a big mountain, spreads all over the world, then Jesus comes third time! Second time, He comes to make a big mountain. 

48                              You who are denying Jesus today, you who are running after money, you who have not surrendered your whole life fully, who are running after tithes and everything, I warn you! This is a wedding feast. God comes down to take His bride. 

49                              See in the Bible, there is a wedding. (Matthew 22:2-10) At that time, the King is giving the wedding feast. He is inviting. The invited people did not come. Then he destroys them. Then he goes to the highways and calls the people. Still there is room. Then he goes and calls the bad and the good. All drunkards, everybody coming; wicked people coming. Their eyes are opened. After that, there is one fellow come without the uniform. Why? The king gives a dress for everybody - same dress. So that nobody will be big and nobody will be small. 

50                              So here, this king, as visitors come, he is giving each a dress. One fellow has come in without the dress. That means, he didn't come through the door. That is, he jumped. And that means, he did not come through the sacrificial way. He had nothing to sacrifice. He found out a place to earn money, so he came. And the king was coming. One man was without the dress. Be careful about that man! How to find out that man? He will be self righteous. He won't have righteousness of God. He will have lot of self. Wherever you go, whenever you watch people like that, get away from them. Because he will be bound hand and foot and thrown into it, and go into tribulation. All the people who support him, everybody will go into tribulation. Because, the king will tell his angels to bind his hand and foot, and then throw him into the outer darkness. 

51                              So that means, in this ministry, there are righteous people. And these righteous people, before glorification, this garmentless fellow will go away. Then others go to glory. The Bridegroom will take them in glory. 

52                              So, my dear friends, be a sacrifice to God. That means: Sacrifice, it dies. Then God works in us. That is why Jesus came as a perfect sacrifice. 

53                              When He was baptised,.... Read that verse. Christ Jesus.... Read that. Someone read it in English. Anybody read in English.  Philippians 2:5

5               Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 

-- Let this mind be with you, which was in Christ Jesus. We must have that mind. Have

you got that mind of Christ Jesus? When you have your mind how can Christ Jesus' mind be in you? 

6               Who, being in the form of God, 

-- ‘Who, being in the form of God!’ Who is Christ Jesus? That's the form of God. 

thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 

-- So He was equal to God. God is unseen, and this One is the form of God. So He is

equal to God. 

7               But made himself of no reputation, 

-- He emptied Himself. What was in Himself? It is Jesus - fullness of God. He emptied Himself, put it in another vessel. That was with the same person, in another form. But when He was baptised, another Spirit comes in. That is the Spirit of Son of David. So, that sacrifice, was a perfect sacrifice, just like this sacrifice. 

54                              And one secret in that, the priest gets the skin of the animal. So when God gave that skin for Adam, He acted like High priest. Cut the lamb, that skin belongs to the Lord God. So, He covered them with that skin. So Adam and Eve, covered with the skin which belongs to Lord God. So when this Jesus died, with that skin, God covers the bride also. That is why, we must have that skin. That is the righteousness of God. For that, so that you may not die, another Person dies. 

55                              So today, we are living for Him. That is the significance of sacrifice. So when He was put in the grave, He had no sin, that body disappears. Many people say, ‘Where did Jesus go?’ This is a question. Jesus said: ‘You see me no more.’ (John 16:10) ‘The things concerning me has an end.’ (Luke 22:36) When you put a seed on the ground,.... 

56                              What did Jesus say? I am a wheat. If it remains alone it will not give good fruit. But if it dies, it will bring many seeds. But you will never see that original seed again. What do the Christians say today? ‘He will come!’ This seed will come again it seems. If that seed were to come again, you and I have no hope. He will be going on like that. So that you may get life, He died. And on Calvary, He put His hand like this. Then the plant came, that is the Bride tree. Are you inside that tree? Inside the mango seed, hundreds of seeds are inside - inside one mango! One mango, hundreds of mangoes inside, leaves are inside, flowers inside, bark inside, root inside, everything inside. As it grows, everybody come. So all these whole bunch of seeds, wherein was it in the beginning? In that original seed. We were all in Christ Jesus. Through the death of Jesus, we have become hundred Christs. Everybody having that life 'Christ'. So you will have the same mind.  57 Then He humbled Himself to the cross. Therefore, 

          9   Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, 

58                              Now people say, what if one seed dies, then the other seeds come up. We are all one. But you must understand, the Gardener and the Seed is not the same. The door and the Shepherd is not the same. So the people seem to think, that Son of David and other people are all same. Son of David is the owner. The Bride is the seed. That is why, many people seem to think, that everybody is equal. 

59                              In the Holy place, all the priests are the same. But one priest, he becomes the High priest. He can only go into the Holy of Holies. For 2,000 years, our High priest went in. But when the kingdom has come, when they have gone into Canaan, then the permanent temple comes. Then the king is the priest. After that there is no priest. The king and the priest are the same. And we are getting into that time. 

60                              So my friends, are you a real sacrifice? If you are a real sacrifice, your life will change.

So don't think that because you are a believer, you came to the full thing. They must see the walking Christ in you. You need not preach. As you go, the people will be finding that there's a man of God here. For that you don't have to call a fellow and say: ‘Do you see that I am a man of God? I am God's man.’ Some of our people say like that. ‘Dey, do you know a God's man? God has selected me.’ If God has selected you, you need not go on telling the people. They will put the road and come to your very house. 

61                              Today, people are coming from all over India and from foreign countries. “Brother, are you Mr. Lawrie?” I'll be talking,.... (Side change)

....I will say, “I am Bro. Lawrie.” - “Are you Bro. Lawrie? They tell that you are a great

man. But you are looking like a man with a lungi6.” - “There is another Lawrie like that, that is dead and gone; he is buried.” - “Where is his grave?” - “In the water?” 

62                              But today, it is by your life. You must be a person of power. Not just healing. Faith! If you have no faith, if you are getting things without faith, better you go and do a work. That is better. You don't come under condemnation. But when you are a man of faith, people must be afraid of you. Not as a rowdy: 'When this man tells something, that will happen.' 

63                              You know when I came here, one day, he said - my son said,... They are putting the things on the top. So I told them to put it down in the car - rain will come. Five minutes, the rain came. Never in Madras we had that rain. And one day, to one of our friends I said, “Brother, for this meeting time you stay here, you don't go for your business.” He went for the business. The hand went out. He is crippled like this now. Why? 

64                              Brother, if God is in you, your word is powerful; not just frightening words. God will honour your words. In that day you ask anything, I will give you. See the confidence God has with His people today! You ask anything, I will give you. Not money. If you ask anything, He will give you, it will come to you. 

65                              One day we wanted to educate my children. And the Christian college school: “Bro. Lawrie you must pay the full year's fees.” - “How much?” - “More than three thousand rupees.” Doctor Cherian recommended. They said, “We will give you the place.” The governor of Gujarat or somebody. So they promised a place. “Bring the 3,000 rupees before 9 o' clock.” Then I called my wife, “We will pray for three thousand rupees.” I didn't borrow. When we prayed, it was 8:30. Then a person came, “Brother, this three thousand for you.” I was telling my wife, “If it is three thousand, should He give exactly three thousand? Why can't He give three thousand five hundred?” Next day you have to look to God. 

66                              I was praying to God one day. “This life is very bad. Every day you have to live in expectation. Why can't you give some salary every month - some five hundred rupees a month?” Every prayer is answered, but that prayer has never been answered for me. Then how will He give you? Then how does the money come? Something wrong with you. If it is expecting every day,.... One man was telling, “Brother, that man is spending money like anything. That is faith.” That is not faith. Some trouble is there with him. You be careful. Anywhere, He doesn't act like that. 

67                              Now see, Elijah: God told Elijah, “Go and tell Ahab about certain things.” But he never told him what to do after that. So he went like a king: “There won't be any rain! You are a wicked man!” If he tells it, they can kill him. So he came out. When he came out of the palace, then the voice of God tells, “You go to that river Cherith.” (1 Kings 17) Today's Christians: “Oh, God gave me so much.” For Elijah, only for that moment He spoke. So when he went to Cherith, He told the crows to go and feed him. There is a famine in the country. So Elijah did not go for any food. Sitting there! Morning crows come: Bread, fresh meat. Then, they didn't put to fry. They didn't put rice khanjee kept over night.

68                              Then afternoon the crows come again: Fresh bread and fresh meat. There was water. Then he started telling, “I am very comfortable here. I have meat, I have bread, I have water.” The moment he thought like that, the water dried up. Then he said, “There was only water, but now it is dried up.” Then only he got up. Then He said, “Go to that widows house.” She was eating the last bread. Why can't God send him to a rich man's house? ‘Day by day living’! Today live for God, tomorrow live for God. Then your life will be very wonderful. 

69                              So let us pray. Loving Saviour, bless this people Lord. Make them a real living sacrifice. Bless them Lord. In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

-- Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie

December 04, 1983 A.M. Madras - Periyar Thidal

 

1   Maya - Illusion.

2   Chatram - A lodge, inn.

3   Thiruneer - Holy ash.

4   Sanyasi - A devotee who has renounced social life.

5   Sadhus - Sages.

6   Lungi - An Eastern garment worn to cover from waist to the feet.

UNTO THE ANGEL OF THE CHURCH

1                                  Praise be to the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. This is not exactly a gospel meeting, but this is the blessing for the people of God. Because there are so many kinds of teachings, and every church, everybody seems to think that they know the whole secrets. But according to the Bible, every age, little by little God was revealing the truth. He didn't give the whole truth in one day. 

2                                  Now what I am going to tell you, in Revelation 1st chapter: This revelation, many people think that this was revealed to John. It was not revealed to John; it was revealed to Jesus Christ. You can read the Bible very closely, then it is said..... You may say, “How can Jesus get a revelation?” When the atonement came, the Son of David gets a revelation. After two thousand years, God has to reveal Him what is hidden in the Bible. So it is said about 'the Lord's day'. There is such a confusion about this, they do not know what is the Lord's day. If you see the Lord, it is not said 'L-O-R-D', but 'Lord', which really means, is the Son of David's days. It has to be on the earth. And when this comes, John was seeing a vision of the expounding of the word. 

3                                  If you read the first chapter: 

1               The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 

-- ‘The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants

things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John.’ God reveals to Jesus Christ, to show to His servants, things which must come to pass; and He sent and signified by signs to His angel... servant John. That is the revelation to the third person. God reveals to Jesus Christ: This is the second coming. So He sent His angel, who is not writing it plainly here, by signs to John. 

4                                  2nd Verse:

2               Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 

-- And John starts it, why he writes it, because he was bearing the record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and all things that he saw in vision. 

5                                  Third verse says:

3               Blessed is he that readeth, 

-- ‘Blessed is He that readeth!’ We used to think that everybody who reads this book is

blessed. He sees that time when God comes down, and He reads the Bible and explains to the Bride, and many people hear that. 

Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, 

-- Blessed is He that readeth, they that hear the words of this prophecy! He that readeth

and they that hear, they are blessed. 

and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. 

-- For the time is at hand. So this was very short time. This was the second coming. 

6                                  So John sends to the seven churches -

4               John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, 

-- Grace be unto you, and peace! Then he says,

from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 

-- ‘From him which is, and which was, and which is to come.’  Three periods! He was

seeing the second coming. So basing on that, he is telling, ‘Grace from Him which is, which was and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before His throne.’  7 Then he tells about the fifth verse, 

5               And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead; 

-- ‘From Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead.’ This

is not the lamb; it's like Isaac, the first begotten from the dead. 

8                                  Then sixth verse:

6               And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 

-- And made us kings and priests unto God and His Father. 

9                                  Then the seventh verse says: 

7               Behold,

-- Look! 

 he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 

--  ‘He cometh with clouds; every eye shall see him, they also which pierced him: all

kindreds of the earth wail because of him.’ It is the third coming. 

10                              Then the eighth verse says: 

8               I am Alpha and Omega, 

-- I am Alpha and Omega. He didn't say: ‘Alpha is different and Omega was different.’ The same One Who was in the beginning, is the same One now coming. 

the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 

10           I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 

-- I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a

trumpet! 

11           Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches

-- ‘Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: What thou seest, write in a book,

and send it unto the seven churches!’ 

11                              And He names the seven churches. 

which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 

12                              And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. 

12                              Then John tried to see from where the sound came. 

And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 

-- I saw seven golden candlesticks. We know the candlesticks is in the Holy place. That is

from the time of Jesus' death to the second coming is the candlestick age. 

13                              And when he saw that, he is telling, 

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 

-- He saw a man clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a

golden girdle. That was the glory of Jesus. 

14                              And then he tells: 

17           And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 

18           I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 

15                              So at the time of the second coming, we must have the keys of overcoming hell and death. Today what the Christians say? ‘Jesus died, I also will die.’ If Jesus died and you also have to die, what blessing is for you? If Jesus died for you, you need not die again. Otherwise don't tell any more that Jesus died for you. Because the people say, ‘Jesus died, I also will have to die.’ 

16                              Today the Christian world says, ‘Oh I must have a good death. Lord, give me a good death.’ We love death. We try to talk good about it. But the Bible tells: ‘The last enemy to overcome, is death.’ (1 Corinthians 15:26) What is that? The last enemy to overcome, is death. 

17                              Jesus said: He that believeth in Me, even though he is dead, he will raise again. Everybody agree to that. You have your Bible in your hands. ‘He that liveth and believeth in Me, shall never die!’ Hallelujah! Have you ever believed that? In our generation, if you believe, we will overcome death, surely! Because we have got the secret key! We know the secret of that. Because the death is our enemy. We talk like friend. It is our last enemy. Today the whole world says, ‘We all have to die like other people.’ - ‘He has attained a body worthy of praise.’ The people think, when Gandhi died, he became famous. That is the blessing of man. 

18                              But I am going to tell you, what is sowed, that we are going to reap. If you sow papaya fruit, you are not going to reap mango fruit. Many people think, that if you plant mangoes, they are going to pluck coconuts. What you sow, you are going to reap. What you sow, you are going to reap many times. 

19                              So when Jesus sowed that seed, we all become seeds exactly like Jesus - not less than Jesus. Many people think, when you put a mango, after many years, you will get only a small mango. The same mango you get. In the same way, one Jesus Christ died, we are going to get hundred Jesus Christ. 

20                              I have come to tell you, not to tell about a religion. I am not telling Christianity. I am no more a Christian - Christianity man. I have come to make you Christs. Many Christs have come - not false Christs. Many people just like Jesus! Because of that one seed, we all are able to overcome. 

21                              That is why when God came down, John saw and was telling that it was 'the Lord's day'. We are now living in 'the Lord's day'. But very soon it will come as 'Son of God's day'. At that time there is no mercy. That time, judgment will fall on the earth. 

22                              My dear friend, why should I tell something to hurt me? Because today it will be hard for you. If you escape - come out of all these bondage; you are going to praise me: ‘He protected us!’ And you will go and hang all these preachers. They are like the Baal's priests. They don't consult the word of God. There were four hundred priests - prophets. They are telling, ‘Go and fight.’ (1 Kings 22:6) So they all said: “The prophets have told.” So these false prophets tell everybody, ‘Peace! The Lord gives peace. He fills my stomach and pot. He builds me fine houses.’ But I am not telling you that. If I tell you, I'll be a false prophet. 

23                              All these users of divination, all these white saree1, black saree, red saree preachers, I warn you today! Stop this nonsense deceiving the people! I also warn the people: Those who talk bad about me without a cause, God has started fighting for me! If you come against me, your mouth will become worms! Then you will know that God is supporting me. 

24                              Today you can preach anything. But these people, these poor people, they follow you thinking that you are correct. But there was one preacher, one prophet who was on the word. He told, ‘You four hundred false prophets, this won't happen; destruction is coming. You are going to die.’ Everybody got angry. God vindicated that prophet. God will vindicate me. This ministry has been vindicated. You can't copy that. Just not touching. “Brother Lawrie does not have the power he had earlier. My! How the devils used to dance!” Is devils dancing 'the power'? Devil must flee!  Today, devil shouting is not power. 

25                              But I want to tell you something here. In the second chapter, many of the preachers, they think it is said to the church of Ephesus. I will tell you every preacher today, you take your Bible, go to your room, knock your brain on the wall. Knock, knock your head and cry! It was not written to the Ephesus church. It is to the angel of the Ephesus church. God is warning that angel, not the church. What the angel is, the church is. 

26                              ‘Unto the first angel!’ What his faults are? What is his fault? If you know that, then we will know how each fellow fell. The angel of the Ephesus church, he had a failure. That is Paul. Paul was that angel. “What? Bro. Lawrie is criticising Paul?” - “Yes! My God criticized him. So I am also criticizing him.” 

27                              What did He say? 

          4   Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 

-- Angel, you have lost the first love. The church didn't leave. You have left your first

love!

28                              You can see all the dictionaries; you go and see the books for two thousand years; and this message, it is not to the church, but to the angel. And God is blaming Paul, “Thou hast left thy first love.” Yes! Paul was working very hard. He had no time to pray. At last, he was not having much faith. He started collecting money, he was telling everybody,... He robbed the other churches. 

29                              And then, God is warning that man. Revelation 2, first verse. Read in English. 

1               Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; 

2               I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, -- God knew Paul's works.

 and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: 

-- He is a good fellow. 

and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: 

-- He was able to find the liars. 

30                              Today we know who the liars are. People who don't preach the word are liars. You might be a Pentecost man, you may be a big man with lot of money, you might have been saved, but I call you a liar. All liars! You are blaming the word of God. God is condemning you today. 

31                              What does it say? 

3               And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. 

-- Paul had a revelation of God's name. And God is telling that. 

32                              Fourth verse:

4               Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, -- ‘Paul, I have got something against you.’   because thou hast left thy first love. 

--  ‘Because thou hast left thy first love.’ If God condemned Paul, how many of you

have lost the first love? Come back to God! Repent! Repent, you full time minister! Repent you believer! There is no more time for you! God is calling you today! Either you come back or be destroyed! 

33                              Then: 

5               Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, - To Paul what does He say? Repent!

 and do the first works; -- Do thy first works!

34                              Then: 

 or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. 

-- So God is telling Paul, “If you don't repent, I'll take your church away from you.” That

was the condemnation. 

35                              If God condemned Paul, how much more He will condemn the present day preachers? Do you think He will leave you free? You are having a good time. You think because you are big people, and you can improve like this. But one day I'll meet you in tribulation, then we'll know who we are. Then you'll know who you are. 

36                              So here, now come to seven: 

          7  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; 

-- Now: 'Holy Spirit' is different from 'the Spirit'. 'Spirit of God' is fullness - God's

fullness on the First-born. But the 'Holy Spirit' is: The Spirit coming from the Son in His name. That is different. That is by measure. But Son of God got in full measure. 

37                              Then He says: 

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. 

-- He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. 

38                              I am not taking all the churches, now we will go to the last church age, which is now just passing. We all know that Bro. Branham was that angel for that church age. He was a prophet. And this prophet,.... I went to Bro. Billy Graham, I went and saw Oral Roberts, I went and saw Bro. Osborne, I went to all the preachers, I went to his church when he preached of the Anglican church. They all wanted me to join them. Without joining them they won't give any money. I am glad some people are getting money by joining these people. You can improve your family. But why are you coming against God's word? Whose property I took? ‘Thief!’ - Did I rob you? No! You tell whatever you want. But see, you have sold the truth for money. Then what can you do today. You can't stand for God. 

39                              So today, as I was standing in Florida, one month I was staying there. I had no money to come back. I wanted to write to the government to repratriate me. I was meditating. Early morning, as I was in the main road, I heard a voice from heaven, “Go and meet My prophet for this age.” So I am telling Him: “Who is that prophet?” - “William Branham.” Again I spoke to Him: “What is His address?” He gave the address. Again I said: “No money.” Then the voice said: “You go to this town and they will give you the money.” I went there and met him - met the man of God. Not these 'brinjal prophets'. What a silly 'prophets' these are! 'You red bloused woman!' Big prophet it seems! You don't hold a candle for that great man! I never joined him. He never gave me any money. But I know that he was a prophet of God! 

40                              When I met him, and many people were there, and he said, “I don't want to meet anyone. God told me to meet that man.” And then baptism took place. In the water he gave a message - ‘On Easter seal’. That day I was baptized there in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. At that time, what happened? In the water he said, “My dear brothers and sisters, the Word is meeting the prophet in the water.” And that message is still with the people. 

41                              So today, from there I came back. But he said, “One day God will put a man on the earth, when man lands on the moon....” And on the moon landing day, the power of God, Spirit of Truth came. This is not my knowledge. This is the knowledge of God! And when He came, that message, it was burning in my heart. It is not false. If it is false, prove by the word. 

42                              So Bro. Branham, we will see what God tells about him. These people who follow Bro. Branham, they do not know, this message is not for the church. It is for that angel. What does it say?  43 Fourteen - third chapter: 

14           And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 

15           I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 

16           So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 

44                              He is the prophet. But he was not cold nor hot. He is a prophet, alright. He gave a message. But being in America, he did not know what faith life was. And many things what he did, I am not blaming. The angel is blamed by God. 

45                              My dear friends, such a mighty prophet is criticized by God. You 'money prophet', you will not be questioned, you will be killed! What did Elijah do? He killed the four hundred prophets. Because that was not a sin for him. (1 Kings 18:40) 

46                              Anybody who go away from God's word, he is a false prophet. Anybody who doesn't obey God's word, and he is a goglet carrier! You know what 'goglet carrying' is? Carrying the bishop's goglet or the other people's goglet, that is the present preachers! You can give all radio preachings. But that will not save anybody. You can never bring them to God's word. Because you are afraid. Come on! You are dumb dogs who cannot bark. (Isaiah 56:10)

47                              So today, people like that. But when I preach and come like this: “What is this Bro. Lawrie is doing? Why he is scolding everybody?” If I tell you nice things, I will be also false like that. I am a servant of God with a message. This message will glorify you. Already many people in America, many in Germany, in Malaya, they are all ready for the glorification. What do the pastors say today? “Bro. Lawrie has learnt a mesmerism. If he lays hands, you go behind him.” That is what they teach today. This is not mesmerism. Power of God in the hand. When I touch, the power of God touches you. If you call that mesmerism, you are a devil. Because you don't know - understand God's power. 

48                              What is the blaming for the prophet? 

17           Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 

49                              Now God is blaming that angel. What is that He says? “Thou art wretched, miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked.” Now you may say, “How can that angel be like that?” The thing is, he didn't know the righteousness of God. He wanted to say, “Come on, lead good life.” Secondly: He didn't know fully the revelations. Because - the coming of the Lord: - The prophet is a servant of God. Now suppose I am going home: My wife is there. I will send a man: “I am coming.” But I won't tell that servant all what I am going to talk to my wife. But what the people say? “Everything was told to the servant.” No! He is a prophet, servant of God. God reveals only that He is coming. 

50                              So the secret for the Bride, it is between the Bride and the Bridegroom. He won't tell the servant. That is why these messages are for the Bride. It will make you glorified. Jesus came to show all the powers which the Son of David is getting. Not for anything else. He came down, died as a martyr, and then He was telling: The Bride and the Son of David - all the power which is inherent in Him. And what is the thing? Jesus said, “No one can kill Me; I can give my life and take it back.” That is the power which is inherent in the Son of David. He can give His life and take it back. God forgave His sins, before the foundation of the world. God sanctified Him and sent. So He has no sin. That is why, a sacrifice came. Because of this sacrifice, we were all free from our sins. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin. 

51                              There, some people talk about karma. This karma, seven births - what birth you saw? Today, today some people died twenty years ago; they can possess a man and talk through that man. And what do the people say? He was this and this in the previous birth. But you do not know what that is. My dear friends, do you know what you were in your previous birth? 

52                              God's remedy for your sins: God come down and lay down His life for you as a sacrifice. That is why all the Hindus do ‘yagam’2. ‘Yagam’ means sacrifice. And some animal must be killed. This has been from the beginning. After Jesus, no more sacrifice. Because we all can get power. So He said, “Thou art wretched, miserable, blind, naked.” 

53                              Then what does He say? 

18           I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, 

-- What is the gold tried in the fire? It is not comfortable life. Job lost all his children. 

54                              You know today people say, “Oh, I have got a vision.” All 'brinjal vision', and not according to the Bible. “God told me. Oh, I was going like this,...” Some lady will tell something. “I saw a vision. And in the vision, I was flying.” All these things they will say. But Job, he got some gold. He lost all his children, lost all his property; he was scratching his body. The wife was telling, ‘Curse God and die.’ He was trying to find out God. Friends were not helpful. Suddenly he says, “I see on my right side, He is not there, on my left, He is not there; in the front He is not there.  He is not behind too.” (Job 23:8,9) You are talking in the telephone it seems?! The fellow is having twenty five cows and God speaks to him in the telephone itself, it seems! Whom are you deceiving?

55                              Many people say, “Oh, I am talking to God in telephone.” This Job, “God - I could not find Him out. But after he tried me, I will come forth as gold.” That gold you have to buy. Do you have that gold? That is the thing which would qualify you. 

56                              My dear friends, as he was getting the gold, suddenly the heavens opened. He was looking. There was thunder, lightning. Then he shouts, “Oh, what I say, let it be inscribed in stone, if it is put in letters of lead. My redeemer liveth! My redeemer liveth!! My redeemer liveth!!! He will live on this earth on the last days! He will stand on the earth!” (Job 19:23-27) It doesn't say that He will stand in the space! You liar!! This Job, he tells that He will stand on this earth. “After my flesh is gone, all worms eat my body, in my flesh, I will see Him with my own eyes!!” He paid a price for that! You are living like a king; you get revelations? You get 'steamed cake revelations'! This Job got a revelation. You have to pay the price. And he was very happy, and God supported him. He had to pray for his friends. 

57                              That is why today, my dear friends, why did we leave everything? My three children, could have become engineers, doctors. They could have been in America. Everybody getting dollars. I could have built a house, sit like a Maharaja and preach Christ. Everybody will come: “Bro. Lawrie, God has blessed!” He has not blessed now, it seems. But God, what did He say? “As in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of Man.” (Matthew 24:37-39) Noah and his three sons, they were preaching! People did not believe it! They were laughing. They were building. They were planting. 

58                              But one day, how did the animals come? They heard the voice of God. Man never heard the voice of God. Man doesn't hear the voice of God today! But today, who is hearing the voice of God?! Atheists, godless people, drunkards, bad people - they are like beasts. They hear the word of God! God did not tell Noah, 'Go and catch the animals.' - 'They will come to you!' 

59                              Today, I see a procession coming! All the people coming into the ark of Christ Jesus. And lions started coming, tigers came, elephants came; they heard the voice of God. But big engineers, even people who built the ark, they could not get in! And the door was shut. My dear friends, the door is open; door is open! Very soon the door will close! Then what will you do?! If you knock at the door, it is useless! A day is coming, it will close!! 

60                              Today, who is coming now? Because there are two things of 'lakh and forty four thousand'. One: Lakh and forty four thousand of twelve tribes. They were sealed by the servants. So they are the servants of God. But there is another lakh and forty four thousand. I will come to that now. 

61                              Revelation fourteen: They are the people who are coming now. They are sons of God. My dear friends, Bride is different, now the sons are different. Read this: 

1               And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion,

-- What is mount Sion? Where the King is there, that is mount Sion. Where the King is

there, the tribe of Judah will be there. 

 and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 

-- They had the Father's name in their foreheads. The Lamb's Father's name is written on

their foreheads. They are the Jews. They are the tribe of Judah; the real Judah, the good figs. 

2               And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 

-- I heard a voice from heaven. 

3               And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: 

-- They sung as it were a new song. New song in the new name. 

62                              They are singing a new song. This song you cannot learn. The present day Christians, you can't learn this new song! Because: You can't understand that. What does it say? 

and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 

-- No man could learn that song, but the hundred and forty and four thousand redeemed

from the earth. 

63                              What is redemption? What is salvation? Salvation is advance. You can't own it. Redemption means: Paying the full amount and possessing it. Two thousand years ago, Jesus paid the advance. After the two thousand years, Son of David comes to pay the full amount and redeem you. Today: That is redemption. Dead people come to life. Living people cannot die. Their full price is paid. 

64                              And then: 

4               These are they which were not defiled with women; 

-- They are not members of any church. If you are a member of a religion, you are

disqualified. 

for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men,

-- From among men,  being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 

-- They are not the Bride members. They are firstfruits. So this is a very important thing. 

5               And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. 

-- In their mouth there was found no guile. They are without fault before the throne of God. They were washed by the blood of Jesus. They had the righteousness of God. 

65                              You see a triangle here. (Bro. Lawrie points to the six pointed star in the background.) This star it's called the six pointed star. This is called 'David's star'. Now there are two triangles. There is a truth about the pyramid. In America, nowadays, they have found out a secret in pyramid. If you have a pyramid, if you put a blade inside, it will not become blunt. The vegetables will not decay. There is a mysterious current there; a preserving power. That is why the ancients built pyramids. 

66                              So today, science is advancing. Is religious knowledge advancing? Is it advancing? No! But the churches don't allow it. They only know Litania and Apostle's creed. They are like a gramophone plate. You know: 'Christmas, New Year, Easter; Christmas, New Year, Easter.' This is like an ox which turns the oil press. They will think they are going miles. They will only go round and round. So they are like gramophone records. 

67                              But today, you must understand: Christian life is a 'progressive life'. You have to read the Bible much. Many people don't study the Bible. That is why the church has lost it's blessing. That is why the preachers are fooling us. If you read the Bible, and you love the word, then you will love me.

Everybody who doesn't love the word, they will hate me. If you love the word, you will know Bro. Lawrie is a man of truth. Because truth is resistant. Finally it will win. 

68                              So in these last days, we have come here. These meetings will not go on every day. God's grace has come to you! We will be passing away. Before you go, dedicate your life for God and His word. Ask for your healing. God can do anything today! If you come to the meeting here, already you will be healed without my touching you. Because in this ministry, in the new name, every sickness will go. 

69                              Now Christ Jesus, is the Son of God. Then: Bible tells, He came down as Jesus. But this is a sacrifice. Sacrifice, when He was baptised, the Spirit is different. That is: The Christ's Spirit came into Him. That's why He was able to die. As a sacrifice He had no sin; no mistake. He was for the Lord. But when He died, in the grave, that covering cloth, the body disappeared. Some people think that body will come. 

70                              When you put a seed, you don't see the body again. Jesus told, 'A wheat, if it remaineth alone, it will not give fruit. But if it dies, it will bring many fruit.' (John 12:24) In the same way, Jesus died never to come back, to bring many sons for glory. That is why Jesus said,... He said so many things, you go and listen. “I have not come to seek My glory; there is one coming to seek My glory. I judge nobody; there is one coming to judge.” (John 8:50) What are you reading the Bible today? It is there. So many things are there. 

71                              It is telling, “I didn't come to glorify Myself. There is one coming to take My glory.” Bible tells, “I'll give My glory to no one. I will not give to another.” (Isaiah 42:8) What is the meaning of ‘another’? He will give to one, and not to any other. I will not give to another! That is the meaning. ‘I will not give to another. To whom I wanted to give, I will give.’ We have not come here to take the glory of God. We are going to give the glory to the Master. That is why, preaching the truth. All those who give false teachings, they are taking the glory for themselves. 

72                              So I am going to pray for you: Let us pray. In this last day, I want everybody to be healed. Those of you want healing, those of you have problems, those who have sickness, any incurable disease, in this day, God said: “In that day, you ask anything in My name, it will be granted.” (John 16:23) So God is going to grant it. So will you please stand up, I am going to pray for you. Let us stand. 

73                              Every eye closed. - Close your eyes. Spend a few minutes thinking about your life. God is going to heal you. That is not a great thing. May God heal your soul! Put your right hand on the sick part of your body. Repent of your sins. In this ministry, it is not like olden days, going back lame people as lame. God can give you a new leg. This ministry can never be imitated by anybody. Last ministry was copied. This ministry, anything can happen for you today. Because: If you trust God, this is a time when God answers prayers. He said, “If you ask a mountain to remove and fall into the sea, it will happen.” That is now! Because: The fullness of God, reveals the full truth. So be prepared for anything. So be ready to get all your sickness healed. 

74                              Let us pray. Put your hands on the sick part of your body. As I pray, believe that God has done that to you. Let us pray. Loving Saviour, I thank You for this precious hour. In these days You have promised to grant everything we ask. Lord there are many people sick today. In Your new name which we know, I command all this sickness to go! Fill them with the Holy Ghost. Give them new eyes! Give them new legs! Give them new spine! Take away all cancer! Take away all their diabetes! Take away all their leprosy! Take away all their TB! Every incurable disease, I command you to get out of their bodies! In the new name, be thou healed! Be thou healed! Raise up and walk! Raise up and walk! Be thou healed! Be thou healed! Be filled with the power of God! Be filled with the power of God! Be filled with the power of God! Thank You Jesus! Thank You Jesus!!

-- Gurudev R. Paulaseer Lawrie

December 04, 1983 P.M. Madras - Periyar Thidal

 

1 Saree - a length of cotton or silk draped round the body, traditionally worn as a main garment by Indian women.  2 Yagam - Sacrifice.